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Sources: Renault Aero Engines
[edit]General
[edit]- Gerard Hartmann - Les moteurs d’aviation Renault (http://www.hydroretro.net/etudegh/les_moteurs_d_aviation_renault.pdf)
- old/outdated version: http://www.hydroretro.net/etudegh/renault.pdf
- Airplane Engine Encyclopedia, Angle Glenn, 1921
- seems correct and rather complete listing of the major early Renault engines, 1 drawing of 70 hp Renault (pages 410ff)
- De Dion engines also listed (page 165ff)
- google scan sans pictures: http://www.archive.org/details/airplaneenginee00anglgoog
- Pagé, Victor Wilfred - Aviation engines, 1917 (http://www.archive.org/download/aviationenginesd00pagrich)
- page 312 depicts a liquid cooled Renault V12 in Fig. 132
- pages 505-512 "Renault Air-Cooled Vee Engine": mentions 40hp, 50hp engines, describes and depicts 70hp V8 and 90hp/100hp V12
- Henri André, Moteurs d'aviation et de dirigeables, 1910 (https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/001040283)
- page 88-90: describes and depicts air cooled 25hp Renault vee-4 engine (90/120mm, 1800rpm, 110kg)
- page 90: mentions 8 cylinder 50ch engine of same type
- page 141: describes and depicts water cooled Renault straight-4 engine (100/130mm, 35/40hp, 100kg)
- page 88-90: describes and depicts air cooled 25hp Renault vee-4 engine (90/120mm, 1800rpm, 110kg)
- http://asoublies14-18.cosadgip.com/Default.asp?367332D3741663E62673366333D36D47263336233D166E6236233D077462361332233DE6
- Renault 70 HP on Maurice Farman M.F.7
- Renault 70 HP or De Dion 80 HP on Maurice Farman M.F.7bis
- Renault 80 HP or De Dion 80 HP on Maurice Farman M.F.11 (some "sans ventilateur")
- Renault 100 HP or Renault 130 HP or De Dion 130 HP on Maurice Farman M.F.11bis
- Renault 130 HP on Maurice Farman M.F.8 (19m wingspan)
- Renault 80 HP or Renault 150 HP à eau (water cooled) or De Dion 130 HP on Farman F 40
- Renault 220 HP on Farman F 43
- Renault 230 HP (blindé) on Farman F
- new page? http://www.asoublies1418.fr
- PARIS FLIGHT SHOW, Flight 1909, page 624(http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1909/1909%20-%200620.html)
- mentions De Dion aero engines being of the same design as their car engines as of 1909
- 2 larger models are V type, the 35hp type also used for cars
- mentions air cooled Renault aero engines -> the design of the fan cooled V8 engines seemingly originated at Renault, not De Dion
- additional water cooled Renault engine mentioned: steel cylinders, copper jackets
- mentions De Dion aero engines being of the same design as their car engines as of 1909
- FLIGHT ENGINES AT PARIS SHOW, Flight 1909, page 709-710 (http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1909/1909%20-%200707.html)
- Pictures and dimensioned (!) drawings of 25hp air cooled V4 and 45hp water cooled inline 4-Cyl. engine.
- additional data in text:
- 25hp@1200rpm, 90mm/120mm, 115kg, 6000 francs
- 45hp, 110mm/160mm, 190kg, 1100rpm, 11000 francs
- note mm written as m/m, compare engine drawing dimensions ("Z" -> m/m) in Sherbondy, Wardrop
- AERO ENGINES AT PARIS SHOW. 1913, Flight, 1914 (http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1914/1914%20-%200192.html)
- table with Renault, De Dion, etc
- whole articles: pages 97-98, 121-122, 135-137, 162-163, 191-193
- description of De Dion on page 121 (http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1914/1914%20-%200121.html)
- French and British stationary aero engines, Flight, November 1, 1917
- http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1917/1917%20-%201137.html
- http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1917/1917%20-%201138.html
- http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1917/1917%20-%201139.html
- note: figures and description might not be accurate
- Great Britain. Air Board - The Claudel-Hobson carburettor models R.A.F., Z. & H.C.7., for aero engines : instruction manual, 1918 (http://www.archive.org/details/claudelhobsoncar00greaiala)
- mentions on page 7 that Renault engines use the Claudel-Hobson carb. (however: water cooled Renaults typically used Zenith carbs.?)
- Pictures (http://www.wwi-models.org/Photos/Engines/Renault80/index.html)
- note: photos from Brussels Museum depict liquid cooled 80hp V8@~50°, other photos depict air cooled 80hp V8@90°
- note@liquid cooled: data from sign: Renault 80HP, 1250rpm, 10.37 hp/kg, 25l; Used in: Farman ??, Voisin, BE2; 1913
- note@liquid cooled: data from sign might be inaccurate: i have not heard of any liquid cooled BE2s (but need to check)
- Pictures: http://www.wwi-models.org/app/sbj/srch/Macn.php?action=uArchList&subjId=288
- note@'Bourget R.12': one photo shows a Peugeot motor
- note@'Brussels 12DB': Renault 12 Db 130 HP air cooled V12, perhaps this one: http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/NbyhRBH1FTq4pUFfWBqCdQ
- note@'Krakow 12FE': a Renault 12 Fe
- note@'Uruguay 300HP': a Renault 12 Fe?
- ENTRANTS FOR THE DEAUVILLE WATERPLANE MEETING, Flight, 1913 (http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1913/1913%20-%200917.html)
- Maurice Farman with 120 hp 8cyl. Renault, likely the same as in Flight, July 1914, pages 702 and 731 (same pilot)
- Aero Engines, Chorlton A E L, 1921, Journal of the American Society of Naval Engineers, Volume 33 Issue 4, pp 738
- https://books.google.at/books?id=hJJCAAAAYAAJ
- pg 753, Table 4 - Aero engines before 1910, Renault/vertical/water/4cyl/B=4.33in/St=6.30in/38.5hp/1100rpm;
- 1155ft/min piston speed; 286 lbs dry weight
- pg 756, Table 5 - Leading Engines 1914, Wolseley-Renault/Vee/12cyl/B=3.78in~96mm/St=5.51in~140mm/113.5bhp/1800rpm;
- 1654ft/min piston speed; 0.66lb fuel/bhp*h; 478.8 lbs dry weight complete; 863.2 lbs weight incl fuel & oil 4h
- pg 765, Table 10 - 12 Cylinder vee type water cooled engines: Renault 50°V12/220hp/B=4.92in~125mm/St=5.91in~150mm/1348cu.in/4.36compress/225bhp/1300rpm;
- 1081ft/min piston speed; 0.53/0.062 lbs fuel/oil consumption per bhp*h; 951 lbs engine dry weight
- pg 766, Table 11 - Air cooled, vee type engines: Wolseley Renault 90°V8/80hp/B=4.13in~105mm/St=5.12in~130mm/549.5cu.in/4.16compress/102bhp/1800rpm
- 1538ft/min piston speed; 0.66/0.055 lbs fuel/oil consumption per bhp*h; 500 lbs engine dry weight
- pg 767, Text, Renault water cooled 240 hp 50°V12 Bore/Stroke 124mm/150mm, 1200 rpm normal speed
- press photographs on gallica
- Salon de l'aéronautique, 1909
- Moteur Renault, 4 cylindres, 45 chevaux, refroidissement à eau
- Moteur Renault, 45 HP, refroidissement à eau
- Moteur Renault, 50 HP, refroidissement à air (note vertical engine mounts, offset cylinders)
- 1909 air cooled vee-8
- https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9019256f (note vertical engine mounts, carb. on top, flat front)
- Semaine de Reims : Le moteur Renault de l'appareil Breguet après l'accident (vertical engine mounts, flat front)
- 1910 air cooled vee-8
- https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b90193613 (note transverse engine mounts, carb. on top)
- https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9019367k (note transverse engine mounts, carb. on top)
- https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b90193665 (note transverse engine mounts, carb. on top)
- Salon de l'aéronautique le moteur Renault
48 cylindres 50 HP (note transverse engine mounts)
- 1912 Renault 100hp V12
- A Buc, moteur 100 HP 12 cylindres Renault, same aeroplane also seen in Renault advert
- Salon de l'aéronautique, 1909
- Lists of Engine Manuals:
- Renault: https://sites.google.com/site/documentationrenault/manuels
- De Dion: https://sites.google.com/site/dedionboutonmoteur/
- Other: Manuels Moteurs
- Renault, DeDion: Les Moteurs d'Aviation 14-18
Air cooled
[edit]- Aeronautics, Vol. 9, page 180, November 1911
- depicts French Wright aeroplane with Renault V8 fan cooled engine
- engine set aside fuselage/nacelle, chain drive to propellers, transverse engine mounts, carburettor not mounted on top
- Aeronautics, Vol. 10, page 65, February 1912
- depicts French Wright aeroplane with 70hp Renault V8 fan cooled engine
- engine set aside fuselage/nacelle, chain drive to propellers, carburettor on side, warm air intake around exhaust
- nice frontal view of fan
- Aeronautics, Vol. 10, page 148, May-June 1912
- depicts Military Burgess aeroplane with 70hp Renault V8 fan cooled engine
- carburettor on front, slightly different type of exhaust jacket for warm air intake.
- Whitehead Aircraft Works, Aeronautics, Vol. 10, Jan-Jul 1916, page 142
- depicts B.E.2(b?) with Renault engine in workshop. Flywheel visible.
- Fage, Arthur - The aeroplane. A concise scientific study, 1915, pages 50, 123f, 129
- page 50 states usage of a 70 hp Renault in a Farman two-seater biplane
- pages 123f list some data and calculations of an 72.5 hp Renault V8 3.8in x 4.75in (96mm x 120mm)
- page 129 lists an air cooled 100 hp Renault V12 engine 96mm x 140mm
- Weight and torque of aero engines, Flight, October 19, 1916 (http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1916/1916%20-%200913.html)
- Engine No 93: The Renault 8-cylinder air cooled vee type engine, Farman, 1908
- Marks, Lionel S. - The airplane engine, 1922
- shows reduction gear of Renault engine on page 378 Gearing 20T/40T
- details (power, bore, stroke, compression..) of many engines (Benz FB FF, Sunbeam, Peugeot, ..) on pages 66-79
- details & drawings: Rolls Royce Eagle (pages 98-103), Benz 230 (pages 109-111), Maybach 300 (pages 112-113)
- another scan: https://archive.org/details/airplaneengine00markuoft
- Capitaine C. Martinot-Lagarde, Les moteurs d'aviation, 1918 (http://issuu.com/chestnuts/docs/moteurs_aviation_1918/1)
- page 122ff describe and show air cooled Renault 8 cylinder engines, followed by similar de dion engines (!)
- Heri Petit, Les moteurs, 1922 (http://books.google.at/books?id=WWQNAQAAMAAJ)
- page 145: picture of fan cooled de dion vee-8
- page 160, 161: pictures of fan cooled 70hp Renault vee-8
- page 153: picture of 180 hp liquid cooled Renault straight-8 with reduction gear
- AEROMOTORS EXHIBITED AT THE PARIS AERO SALON, Flight 1912, page 1080
- Table lists Renault and Dion engine (amongst others):
- Renault 25hp fan cooled V4, 90/120mm, 1800rpm, 242 lbs (ca 110 kg)
- Renault 40hp fan cooled V8, 75/120mm, 1800rpm, 242 lbs (ca 110 kg)
- Renault 50-60hp fan cooled V8, 90/120mm, 1800rpm, 374 lbs (ca 170 kg)
- Renault 70hp fan cooled V8, 96/120mm, 1800rpm, 396 lbs (ca 180 kg)
- Renault 100hp fan cooled V12, 96/120mm (?), 1800rpm, 638 lbs (ca 290 kg)
- De Dion 80 hp air cooled V8, 100/120mm, 1700rpm, 484 lbs (ca 220 kg)
- De Dion 150 hp water cooled V8, 125/150mm, 1600rpm, 968 lbs (ca 440 kg)
- Note: Tabulated particulars compiled, with the assistance of L'Aero, from data supplied by the manufacturers.
- Table lists Renault and Dion engine (amongst others):
- Der 70HP luftgekühlte Renault-Fliegermotor, 1912, Allgemeine Automobil Zeitung, page 51 (http://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/anno?apm=0&aid=aaz&datum=19120929&seite=51&zoom=2)
- description and picture of 70 hp Renault
- bore/stroke = 96mm/120mm, L/W/H = 1300mm/678mm/651mm, 180kg, 1800rpm
- A. GRAHAM CLARK - AERONAUTICAL ENGINES, Flight, 1912/1913, 1912 pg. 1175-1179; 1913 pg. 20-21, 47-48, 75, 101, 129-130, 198-199, 266, 318-319
- Table with Renault general characteristics, materials, etc (http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1912/1912%20-%201175.html)
- Table with De Dion 80hp and 150hp (liq.) dimensions and performance on page 1176
- Table with Renault 25hp V4, 40hp/55hp/78hp V8 and 100hp V12@60° dimensions and performance on page 1177
- Table with 78hp Renault, bore, stroke, rpm, etc. (http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1912/1912%20-%201178.html)
- Description of Renault (http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1913/1913%20-%200129.html)
- AERO ENGINES AT OLYMPIA SHOW, Flight, 1913, pages 190-191
- Picture of Renault air cooled engine 100hp V12@60° on page 191 (http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1913/1913%20-%200187.html)
- THE ENGINES AT OLYMPIA, Flight, 1913, pages 226-230
- Description and Picture of Renault air cooled engines, 100hp V12@60° (http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1913/1913%20-%200223.html)
- Lists Renault engines: 40/70/90-100hp, bore, stroke, etc (http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1913/1913%20-%200224.html)
- AERONAUTICAL ENGINES AT OLYMPIA, 1914, Flight, March 14, 1914.
- List of Renault engines 70HP V8 and 100hp V12 (http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1914/1914%20-%200269.html)
- Pictures + description of Renault engines 70HP V8 and 100hp V12 (http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1914/1914%20-%200272.html)
- Compare: Wolseley semi-air-cooled 60-80 hp engines (http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1914/1914%20-%200274.html)
- Further details of Wolseley (http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1914/1914%20-%200339.html)
- Renault improvements (40/70/100hp) over their older engines (http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1914/1914%20-%200337.html)
- piston oil pumps replaced by gear pumps driven off the cam-shaft (etc..)
- Pariser Aero-Salon 1911, Allgemeine Automobil-Zeitung 1912, page 13 (http://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/anno?apm=0&aid=aaz&datum=19121103&seite=13&zoom=2)
- Note De Dion 80 hp air cooled motor
- 12 cylinder 60 degree Vee Renault
- Motoren auf dem Pariser Aero Salon, 1913, Allgemeine Automobil Zeitung, page 23 (http://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/anno?apm=0&aid=aaz&datum=19131221&seite=23&zoom=2)
- depicts 100hp air cooled Renault engine
- Pictures:
- Picture of Renault V12 aircooled engine (http://www.bredow-web.de/Triebwerke_und_Flugzeugmotore/Renault/renault.html)
- Picture of Farman F.40 fuselage/V12 aircooled engine, could be a Renault or a De Dion (http://lh4.ggpht.com/_4uJs9s9VhAk/Rk_sL_WluWI/AAAAAAAABTc/7ODal7EfOGg/EDS28013.jpg)
- Drawing of Farman F.40 states Renault 130 CV (http://www.internetmodeler.com/1999/november/new-releases/farman-drwg.jpg)
- Maurice Farman MF.11, Musée Royal de l'Armée et d'Histoire Militaire, Bruxelles, B (http://www.luftfahrtmuseum.com/htmi/ite/mf11.htm)
- www.finemodelworks.com pictures, unknown source/Flight
- The R.F.C. inquiry, Flight, June 29, 1916 (http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1916/1916%20-%200551.html?search=renault)
- lists BE.2b and Maurice Farman being equipped with 70hp Renault at beginning of war.
- Flight, June 1, 1916 (http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1916/1916 - 0551.html?search=renault)
- lists BE.2c being equipped with 70hp Renault before being reequipped with 90hp RAFs
- Gerard Hartmannn - 1908 année de l’aéronat (http://www.hydroretro.net/etudegh/1908_annee_de_l_aeronat.pdf)
- page 28: Describes early Renault V8 (~50cv): ca. 180kg (less later); steel pistons (aluminium later); constant flow carb (François Baverey, founder of Zenith), previously pump carb (as in Antoinette)
- several pages state other Renault engine weighs (150/170/190kg)
- Gerard Hartmannn - La Grande Semaine d’Aviation de la Champagne (http://www.hydroretro.net/etudegh/semaine_aviation_champagne_1909.pdf)
- lists Renault 60ch V8 on page 10: bore/stroke 120/120mm, 1800rpm, 180kg, air cooled
- Der erste aeronautische "Salon", Allgemeine Automobil-Zeitung, 1909, Nr. 40, 3. October 1909 (AUH magazine, german)
- http://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/anno?apm=0&aid=aaz&datum=19091003&seite=30&zoom=2
- note 25HP V4: short description on page 31, picture on page 32,
- Der zweite Pariser aviatische "Salon", Allgemeine Automobil-Zeitung, 1910, Nr. 43, 23. October 1910 (AUH magazine, german)
- http://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/anno?apm=0&aid=aaz&datum=19101023&seite=2&zoom=2
- note 25HP V4: picture on page 8
- L'Aérophile Volume 18, page 515 (http://www.archive.org/details/larophile18besa)
- picture of 4 cyl. Renault 25 hp (Salon d'aeronautique 1910)
- advertisement w/picture of Renault V8 (note engine mount)
- A photo of a Renault 80 hp (or perhaps a Renault 70 hp)
- photo of Renault 80 hp buildt by Wolseley (Type WS)
- http://www.powerhousemuseum.com/collection/database/?irn=213294
- One of 304 Renault type WS, 80 hp, 8-cylinder Vee engines
- note: cylinders seem to be shifted.
- Engine No. A52/2014 B.H.P 85 at 905. Tested 5-8-15: 2 hrs."
- 105/130mm, 4.16:1 compression
- photo of 80 H.P. Renault engine No.1709 W.D. No.12864. in london science museum
- Victor Pagé - The A-B-C of aviation, 1918 (http://www.archive.org/details/abcaviationacom00paggoog)
- page 142: drawing air cooled 8 cylinder V Renault pusher (externals)
- Frank Munger - cutaway drawing of aircooled Renault V 8 (http://www.flightlinearts.com/Portals/0/images/Posters/RenaultV8Engine.jpg)
- https://web.archive.org/web/20160303233211/http://www.flightlinearts.com/Portals/0/images/Posters/RenaultV8Engine.jpg
- 70 hp according to description
- shows articulated rods
- J.F. Lehmann - Jahrbuch der Luftfahrt, Band 2, 1912 (http://books.google.com/books?id=BjIXAQAAIAAJ)
- drawing of fan-cooled v8 Renault on page 215, note offset cylinders, crankcase bottom, oil lines
- Siegmund Huppert - Leitfaden der Flugtechnik, 1913 (http://books.google.at/books?id=d7NFAAAAMAAJ)
- picture and description of 90 hp fan-cooled Renault 12 cylinder 60° Vee engine on page 333
- Bore/Stroke = 96mm/140mm, 1850 rpm, 90 hp, 290kg
- Divers types de moteur d'aviation RENAULT au circuit d'Anjou, Bulletin mensuel / Association générale aéronautique, 1912
- Note Y-shaped cylinder mountings on upper left picture
- La Bouret, Biplan Astra with Renault 100 hp V12 (https://www.air-journal.fr/air-journal-circuit-anjou-1912-labouret)
- Renault 70 ch/75 ch, 90 ch (https://www.hydroretro.net/etudegh/la_grande_course_aerienne_circuit_d_anjou_1912.pdf)
- Bulletin mensuel / Association générale aéronautique, 1911
- Les concours d'aeroplane militaires: Farman and Breguet with Renault 75hp (https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k6123096t/f10.item)
- photos https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k6123096t/f12.item
- Breguet L 1
- Le 10eme anniversaire des Renault, La Vie au Grand Air, 1908 November 28
- Depiction of Renault V8 https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k9603915r/f11.item
- 'Zeppelin' moteurs Mercedes
- Renault Frères au deuxième Salon, La Vie au Grand Air, 1909 Januray 2
- Renault 50 hp 90/120mm, conical fan casing
- Le Moteur d'aviation Renault, H.P. (H.Petit?), La Vie au Grand Air, 1909 August 21
- Renault 60 ch V8, no dimensions given, photos
- Renault et l'aviation, La Vie au Grand Air, 1910 July 2
- pictures, text: biplan Farman, Renault V4, Renault 60 ch V8, no dimensions given
- Le Moteurs d'Aviation, La Vie au Grand Air, 1910 October 29
- mentions Renault V4 and V8, no dimensions, no pictures
- Les Moteurs au Salon, H.Petit, La Vie au Grand Air, 1911 December 13
- mentions display of 4 and 8 cylinder air-cooled Renault, new V12 Renault engine (1800rpm), no dimensions given.
- Renault V8 (Y-head mounts) depicted https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k9604305m/f7.item
- Aircraft photos (Renault)
- Adverts
- 1913, June: 40hp, 50-60hp, 70hp, 100hp(depicted)
- Films
- WWI R.A.F. Material (1910-1919), time 1:01, Men load a Renault engine aboard a lorry.
Liquid cooled
[edit]- Renault 170HP aircraft engine manual (http://issuu.com/chestnuts/docs/renault_8cyl_170hp)
- note domed pistons on 170hp V8, also flat aluminium pistons shown, translation needed
- Renault 190HP aircraft engine manual (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Scans_from_%27Renault_190HP_aircraft_engine_manual%27)
- note flat pistons on 190hp V8
- Sherbondy, E H; Wardrop, G. Douglas, joint author - Textbook of aero engines, 1920, pages 235-245 (http://www.archive.org/details/textbookaeroeng00wardgoog)
- note domed pistons on 300hp V12, page 235
- another scans of this publication:
- Marks, Lionel S. - The airplane engine, 1922 (http://www.archive.org/download/airplaneengine00markrich/airplaneengine00markrich.pdf)
- provides some data about Renault 400 hp V12
- Dyke, Andrew Lee - Dyke's automobile and gasoline engine encyclopedia, 1920,page 922 (http://www.archive.org/details/dykesautomobile00dykegoog)
- provides some data about Renault 125mm x 160mm V12
- www.finemodelworks.com pictures, unknown source
- www.nationalmuseum.af.mil, picture of Renault 12F (http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=855)
- www.enginehistory.org, picture of Renault 12F (http://www.enginehistory.org/Museums/LeBourget/leborget.htm)
- George Owen Squier - "Aeronautics in the United States at the signing of the armistice November 11, 1918", 1919, page 13 (http://www.archive.org/download/aeronauticsinuni00squirich/aeronauticsinuni00squirich.pdf)
- page 13 lists the Renault 300 bhp 12 cylinder engine with a weight of 849 lbs (385 kg)
- Allgemeine Automobil-Zeitung, Nr. 47, 25. November 1917, page 29 (german, AUH magazine)
- http://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/anno?apm=0&aid=aaz&datum=19171125&seite=29&zoom=2
- note domed pistons on V12, 245hp
- a similar article in "The Automobile", May 24 1917, page 996 (http://books.google.at/books?id=sotMAAAAYAAJ)
- propeller geared down
- table of comperative speeds/climb of 6 european airplanes is also given. Three (unidentified) 245hp airplanes listed.
- Henry Woodhouse - Textbook of applied aeronautic engineering, 1920, page 125 (http://www.archive.org/details/textbookofapplie00woodrich)
- page 125 shows installation of a water cooled 190 hp Renault (1550-1600 rpm) in an A.R.1
- page 127: [A.R.1] "The exhaust gases are carried outwards to each side through short collectors. With the older motors the exhaust from both rows of cylinders was carried inwards to a common collector carrying up [...]"
- also many other good drawings ow ww1 and post war aeroplanes
- J.F. Lehmann - Jahrbuch der Luftfahrt, Band 1 , 1910 (http://books.google.com/books?id=zy8XAQAAIAAJ)
- Renault water cooled 4 cylinder inline engine depicted on page 199
Renault 90/120mm V8 (2 fans, ca. 1908)
[edit]- Ueber die Konstruktion der Flugmotoren., Der Motorwagen 1908 Volume 1, pages 269-281
- Renault engine (90/120mm, 2 fans, 130kg), estimated 42hp, pictures
- Fritz Huth, Luftfahrzeugbau: Konstruktion von Luftschiffen und Flugmaschinen, 2. Auflage 1910
- http://books.google.com/books?id=gq1XAAAAYAAJ
- pages 242-246 describe and depict an early fan cooled (2 fans) Renault v-8 engine
- 90/120mm, 130kg, propeller mounted to crankshaft
Renault 35 hp V8 (ca. 1911)
[edit]- Der Pariser Aero-Salon 1911, Allgemeine Automobil-Zeitung 1911, page 12 (http://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/anno?apm=0&aid=aaz&datum=19111224&seite=12&zoom=2)
- Picture of Renault V-8, 35 hp, 100 kg
- Note Y-type cylinder mountings
- Paris Aero Show, Flight, 1912 Jan 13, page 28
Renault 45-55 hp V8 (90mm x 120mm), c.1909
[edit]- THE FIRST PARIS AERONAUTICAL SALON - ENGINES FOR AEROPLANES, Flight 1909 (Jan 16 and 23), pages 33-35 46-49
- [1] lists 45hp@1500rpm Renault V8 aircooled, 90mm/120mm, 145 kg, 40 hp R.A.C. rating
- 45hp Renault V8 air cooled picture and short description (page 46)
- details from picture (page 46) propeller driven off camshaft, flat crankcase w/o traversing mounting tubes, conical fan housing, carburetor on top centrally, exhaust pipes facing down
- AERO-MOTORS AT OLYMPIA, Flight 1909 (Apr 3 and 10), pages 193-197 205-208
- Table lists 50hp Renault V8 air-cooled, 90mm/120mm, 1600rpm, 264 lbs (ca 120 kg), 520£
- 50hp Renault V8 air cooled picture and description (page 207)
- details from picture (page 207) propeller driven off camshaft, flat crankcase w/o traversing mounting tubes, conical fan housing, carburetor on top centrally, exhaust pipes facing down
- The aero manual, 1st Ed, 1909, Compiled by the staff of 'The Motor'
- pages 152-153 depict and describe Renault fan cooled V8
- 55hp@1800rpm, 375 lbs (ca 170 kg) in running order w/o fuel, 90mm x 120mm
- two rows of cylinders slightly offset, rods side by side on crankpin
- Hayward, Charles B. - Aeronautical motor, 1912
- lists a 45-55 hp air cooled Renault V8 on pages 392-395
- bore stroke 3.5in/4.7in (ca. 90mm/120mm), 374 lbs (ca 170 kg), rated 45-55 hp @ 1500rpm(=normal speed)-1800 rpm, 58 hp on tests
- details (Fig. 34): offset cylinders, carburetor centrally on top, integrated oil pump (driven by camshaft) on fan end
- Tabuteau won $20,000 Michelin prize 1910 with this engine
- google scan, sans pictures, pages 50-51
Renault 50-60 hp V8 (90mm x 120mm), c.1910
[edit]- THE SECOND OLYMPIA AERO SHOW, Flight 1910, page 193 (http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1910/1910%20-%200197.html)
- https://archive.org/details/Flight_International_Magazine_1910-03-12-pdf/page/n21/mode/2up
- Table lists 50hp V8 and 25 hp V4, both aircooled 90mm/120mm
- Georges. Lumet, Les moteurs d'aviation, 1910 (mdp.39015021080687)
- also http://books.google.at/books?id=AG_VAAAAMAAJ
- 3h test data of 60ch vee-8 motor on page 14 (90/120mm, 179.3kg, rpm, consumption etc)
- drawing of 60ch fan cooled vee-8 motor on page 76 shows rods side by side on crankpin
- details of drwaing: offset cylinders, 'double' oil pan, integrated oil pump (driven by camshaft) on fan end
- Renault 4 cylinder engine also listed
- Taris, Berthier - Les Moteurs d'aviation (http://issuu.com/dante13/docs/aviation/1), 1912
- describes and depicts the air cooled Renault 60 hp V8 engine (90/120mm), traversing mounting tubes, https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k56960973/f259.item
- also air cooled Renault V4 engine (90/120mm), https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k56960973/f60.item
- also NAG 120hp 150/130mm
- Lougheed, Victor - Vehicles of the air, 1911 (http://www.archive.org/details/vehiclesairpopular00lougrich)
- 1st Edition 1909, 2nd Ed. 1910 (http://www.archive.org/details/airpopvehiclesof00lougrich)
- 2nd Ed: detailed photo of air cooled Renault V8 on page 278(fig. 114), probably 45-55hp or 50-60hp 90mm x 120mm
- 2nd Ed: photo of Renault engines installed on an early Breguet plane: 230 (fig. 98)
- 2nd Ed: air cooled Fiat engine on page 280(fig. 115)
- L'Aerophile 1911
- Biplan M. Farman with Renault 50/60 hp https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k65523525/f133.item
- Breguet L.1 with Renault 50/60 hp https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k65523525/f482.item
- Dorand with 60hp Renault https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k6551974h/f13.item (next page also one with 70hp Renault)
Renault 90/100 hp V12
[edit]- Airplane Engine Encyclopedia, Angle Glenn, 1921
- page 414 lists Renault air cooled V12 engines
- 90 hp V12@60°, 90/140mm, 638 lbs
- 100 hp V12@60°, 96/140mm, 1800rpm, 639 lbs (ca 290 kg), depicted (double carburetor mounted on one side centrally)
- 130 hp V12@90°, 105/130mm (same dimensions as Renault 80 hp V8, see Renault 130 hp V12)
- page 414 lists Renault air cooled V12 engines
- Description, pictures in L'Aerophile (1912-10): https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k6551984w/f23.image
- 2nd and 4th in the meeting d'hydroaeroplanes de Saint-Malo
- 95mm x 140mm V12@60°,100hp, 1800rpm/900rpm, 290kg
- double carburetor mounted on one side centrally
- Description and Drawing (1913-1914), 5e Exposition Internationale de Locomotion Aérienne vom 5.-25. Dez.1913., Ansbert Vorreiter, Zeitschrift für Flugtechnik und Motorluftschiffahrt, Vol.5 1914, pages 67-67 and 82-85
- drawings fig.90-91 (page 67-68): stroke/bore ratio around 1.55-1.60, closer to 90mm x 140mm (90hp!) than to 96mm x 140mm
- fig.94-98 on page 69 show details of carburetor and ignition
- pages 82 and 85 (table): normal Renault 70hp V8 engine, 96mm x 120mm, also available without cooling fan
- pages 82 and 85 (table): new Renault 100hp V12 engine, 96mm x 140mm, with articlulated rods
- pages 82 and 85 (table): De Dion-Bouton 80hp V8 engine, 106mm x 120mm , separate reduction gear for propeller shaft, because usage of camshaft is patented
- Description and Drawing (1914-03): https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k65188992/f7.item
- drawing: stroke/bore ratio around 1.55, closer to 90mm x 140mm (90hp!) than to 96mm x 140mm
- Description, pictures of 70hp, 100/110hp in L'Aerophile (1914-05): https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k65850858/f27.item
- good resolution photo of Renault 100/110hp (same as 1912-10): https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k65850858/f31.item
- also nice measured drawing of Renault 70hp, good resolution picture on following page
- L'Aeronautique, 1914, picture of 100hp Renault: https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k9809921t/f316.item
- Aeronautics, v.14 1914, page 36
- text describes 70hp and 100hp Renault
- Listed in L'Aerophile (1919-12): https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k6551947m/f360
Renault 130 hp V12
[edit]- DIE DEUTSCHE LUFT-KRIEGSBEUTE-AUSSTELLUNG., Dipl.-Ing. Roland Eisenlohr., Deutsche Luftfahrt v.21 1917; no.3-4 p.18-20, no.5-6 p.13-19, no.7-8 p.13-15
- no.3-4 p.18-20: Nieuport
- no.5-6 p.15: depiction of Farman F.40 nacelle with 'Renault 120PS' engine, description on page 17
- another photo of the same Farman at the Delka: https://www.flickr.com/photos/varese2002/14717719887/in/photostream/
- no.5-6 p.13-19: B.E.12, F.E.2b, Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter, Farman, Voisin, Caudron G.4. (the one with the harlekin emblem)
- no.7-8 p.13-15: Sopwith Tabloid, F.B.A.
De Dion 80hp, 130hp
[edit]- LIGHT DE DION ENGINES, Flight 1909, page 827 (http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1909/1909%20-%200825.html)
- liquid cooled engines
- ENGINES FOR DIRIGIBLES, Flight 1909, page 793 (http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1909/1909%20-%200791.html)
- De Dion V engines mentioned
- Salon aéronautique de 1912 : Moteur De Dion 80 HP : 8 cylindres (gallica, photographie de presse)
- crankcase differs slightly from later variants
- Airplane Engine Encyclopedia, Angle Glenn, 1921 page 165
- De Dion 80hp air cooled V8, 1700rpm, 465 lbs, 100/120mm (3.94/4.72in), 460.4 cu in
- picture (seems to be the same as from gallica)
- Aeronautical Engines. A. Graham Clark. Flight, December 14, 1912, page 1176
- Table lists De Dion 80hp V8 engine, 100/120mm, 1700rpm, 55.7bhp@1200rpm, 484 lbs (ca. 220kg)
- Flight, August 2, 1913, page 857
- 3 photos of De Dion 80 hp V8 engine, 100/120mm
- Erratum: De Dion V8 on new Maurice Farman biplane is 80 hp, not 120 hp engine
- Aero engines at Paris Show, 1913. Flight, January 31, 1914, page 121
- De Dion: some description
- Aeronautics, No. 4 February 1914, page 52
- Engines from Paris Aeronautical Salon
- De Dion 80hp air cooled V8, 1,800rpm, 465 lbs, 106/120mm air cooled V8 (4 3/16 in x 4 3/4 in)
- picture, slightly different looking from 1912 (gallica) version (readable inscription on crankcase: DE DION BOUTON)
- Les Moteurs d'Aviation 14-18
- depicts V8 De Dion Bouton "78 HP" with MF 11
- note: also depicts front cover of Renault Type 110 chevaux manual
List of Renault Aero Engines (WIP)
[edit]- Renault A?
- 1908 V8 à 90° type 8 A de 50 ch Breguet, Witzig, Busson 6 litres refroidi par air 15 (Hartmann)
- 1909 V8 à 90° type 8 Aa de 60 ch Biplans Champel, Sommer Régime porté à 1800 t. 30 (Hartmann)
- 1909 V8 à 90° type 8 Ab de 70 ch Biplans Sanchez-Besa, Astra Alésage porté à 96 mm 100 (Hartmann)
- Renault 8B, 8 cyl V90°:
- 1910 V4 à 90° type 4 B de 20 ch Destiné aux monoplans 3 litres refroidi par air 5 (Hartmann)
- 1911 V8 à 90° type 8 B de 30 ch Destine aux monoplans Alésage réduit 70 mm 10 (Hartmann)
- Renault 8C, 8 cyl V90°: 8C 70ch*, 8Ca 80ch* (*Hartmann)
- 1912 V8 à 90° type 8 C de 70 ch Biplans M Farman Nouvelles culasses 1 100 (F) 230 (GB) (Hartmann)
- 1913 V8 à 90° type 8 Ca 80 ch Appareils britanniques Alésage 105 mm 2 206 (GB) (Hartmann)
- Renault 12D, 12 cyl V90°: 12D 90ch*, 12Da 100ch*, 12Db 120ch*/130hp+, 12Dc 130ch (*Hartmann, +Brussels museum)
- 1911 V12 à 50° type 12 D 90 ch Biplans Breguet, M Farman Nouvel embiellage 130 (Hartmann)
- 1912 V12 à 50° type 12 Da 100 ch Victoire à Saint-Malo 1912 Carburateur à filtres 35 (Hartmann)
- 1913 V12 à 50° type 12 Da 110 ch Saison des courses 1913 Moteur allégé 12 (Hartmann)
- 1913 V12 à 50° type 12 Db 120 ch MF-11, Caudron R4 Renaux à Deauville 1 800 (Hartmann)
- 1914 V12 à 50° type 12 Dc 130 ch Biplans MF-11 et F.40, Caudron R-19 Moteur de 19 litres refroidi par air 2 900 (Hartmann)
- Renault 12E, 12 cyl V50°: 12E 200ch*, 12Eb 220ch*, 12Ec 235ch* (*Hartmann)
- 1915 V12 à 50° type 12 E 200 ch Bombardier Paul Schmitt Refroidissement à eau 60 (Hartmann)
- 1916 V12 à 50° type 12 Eb 220 ch Breguet-Michelin type 5 B2 Programme M4 550 (Hartmann)
- 1917 V12 à 50° type 12 Ec 235 ch Breguet-Michelin type 5 Ca2 Programme M4 550 (Hartmann)
- Renault 12F, 12 cyl V50°: 12F 250ch*, 12Fb 265ch*, 12Fc 280ch*, Fe 300ch*/320ch* (*Hartmann)
- 1916 V12 à 50° type 12 F 250 ch Breguet XIV prototype Mot. d’homologation 12 (Hartmann)
- 1917 V12 à 50° type 12 Fb 265 ch Paul Schmitt type 7 Version série du SBR * 125 (Hartmann)
- 1917 V12 à 50° type 12 Fc 280 ch Breguet 14 A2 Versions 1917 450 (Hartmann)
- 1917 V12 à 50° type 12 Fe 300 à 320 ch Voisin 10, Breguet 14 A2 et B2, Breguet 16 Bn2, hydravion Lévy-Besson, Potez 15, Farman 60, 61 et 70, Latécoère 14, 16 et 17 Plus grande série jamais construite chez Renault, essais turbocompresseur Rateau 5 300 (Hartmann)
- Renault 8G, 8 cyl V50°: 8G 140ch*, 8Ga 150ch*, 8Gb 160ch*, 8Gc 175ch*, 8Gd 190ch*, 8Ge 200ch* (*Hartmann)
- 1913 V8 à 90° type 8 G 140 ch Farman F 40 Moteur de 12 litres refroidi par eau 5 (Hartmann)
- 1914 V8 à 90° type 8 Ga 150 ch Farman F.40 Appareils français 200 (Hartmann)
- 1915 V8 à 90° type 8 Gb 160 ch Farman F.40 Appareils britanniques 300 (Hartmann)
- 1916 V8 à 90° type 8 Gc de 175 ch Farman 40 Premières versions 20 (Hartmann)
- 1917 V8 à 50° type 8 Gd 190 ch Dorand AR1, Farman 80 120 (Hartmann)
- 1918 V8 à 90° type 8 Ge 200 ch Dorand AR2 Dernier V8 Renault 160 (Hartmann)
Measurements taken from Renault engine drawings (WIP)
[edit]Engine config. |
Stroke/Bore (numeric ratio) |
Bore/Stroke (numeric ratio) |
Cyl. bank angle |
Description | Source | Comment |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
V12@liq | 140/119 = ? | 0.85 | 50° | The 220 H.P Renault Aero Engine | finemodelworks (front) | rescaled and rotated |
V12@liq | 87.2968/72.3781 = 1.2061 | 0.8291 | 47.85° * | Moteur Renault type 12 E 1916 développant 220ch (Dessin Manuel d’aviation de la première guerre mondiale) | Hartmann - renault.pdf | measurement aligned, left cyl. row (front), *distortions not compensated |
V12@liq | 87.2968/72.8282 = 1.1987 | 0.8343 | 47.85° * | Moteur Renault type 12 E 1916 développant 220ch (Dessin Manuel d’aviation de la première guerre mondiale) | Hartmann - renault.pdf | measurement aligned, right cyl. row (front), *distortions not compensated |
V12@liq | 143.2867/111.9055 = 1.2804 | 0.7810 | 47.36° * | 300 H.P. Renault end section | Sherbondy,Wardrop: page 235 | measurement aligned, left cyl. row (front), *distortions not compensated |
V12@liq | 143.2867/111.6840 = 1.2830 | 0.7794 | 47.36° * | 300 H.P. Renault end section | Sherbondy,Wardrop: page 235 | measurement aligned, right cyl. row (front), *distortions not compensated |
Table of Renault engine bore/stroke and their ratio
[edit]Bore/Stroke | Bore [mm] |
Stroke [mm] |
Stroke/Bore | Displacement per Cyl. |
Comment |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
0.5833 | 70 mm (2.756 in) | 120 mm (4.724 in) | 1.7143 | 0.46 L (28.071 cu in) | |
0.6250 | 75 mm (2.953 in) | 120 mm (4.724 in) | 1.6000 | 0.53 L (32.343 cu in) | |
0.6857 | 96 mm (3.780 in) | 140 mm (5.512 in) | 1.4583 | 1.01 L (61.634 cu in) | |
0.7500 | 90 mm (3.543 in) | 120 mm (4.724 in) | 1.3333 | 0.76 L (46.378 cu in) | |
0.7813 | 125 mm (4.921 in) | 160 mm (6.299 in) | 1.2800 | 1.96 L (119.607 cu in) | Sherbondy, Wardrop, drawing/description "300 H.P. Renault" on page 235/240 |
0.8000 | 96 mm (3.780 in) | 120 mm (4.724 in) | 1.2500 | 0.87 L (53.091 cu in) | |
0.8077 | 105 mm (4.134 in) | 130 mm (5.118 in) | 1.2381 | 1.13 L (68.957 cu in) | |
0.8333 | 125 mm (4.921 in) | 150 mm (5.906 in) | 1.2000 | 1.84 L (112.284 cu in) | |
0.8462 | 110 mm (4.331 in) | 130 mm (5.118 in) | 1.1818 | 1.24 L (75.669 cu in) | |
0.8571 | 120 mm (4.724 in) | 140 mm (5.512 in) | 1.1667 | 1.58 L (96.418 cu in) |
Dimensions from Renault engines according to sources (WIP)
[edit]Renault, air cooled:
Type [Hartmann] |
Engine config. |
Bore / Stroke (mm) |
hp | rpm | total mass (kg) |
piston speed (ft/min) |
price | Description | Source (year) |
Comment |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Type 4 B 1910 | V4/air/90°* | - | 25 | - | - | ? | - | - | [AZPARIS09] | *pic |
Type 4 B 1910 | V4/air/90°* | - | 25 | - | - | ? | - | - | [AZPARIS10] | *pic |
Type 4 B 1910 | V4/air/- | 90/120 | 25 | 1800 | 110 | ? | 220£ | Renault Carb | [FLPARIS12] | |
Type 4 B 1910 | V4/air/90° | 90/120 | 25 | 1800 | 110* | - | - | np=59.2lb/in2, 33.4bhp@1200rpm, Prop on camshaft, Fan | [FLCLARK12] | *no flywheel |
V8/air/- | 75/120 | 40 | 1800 | 110 | ? | 340£ | Renault Carb, 3.8/0.11 gal/h (Fuel/Oil) | [FLPARIS12] | ||
V8/air/90° | 75/120 | 40 | 1800 | 110* | - | - | np=68.1lb/in2, 53.4bhp@1200rpm, Prop on camshaft, no Fan | [FLCLARK12] | *no flywheel | |
Type 8 B 1911 | V8/air/90°* | 70/120 | 40 | - | 110 | - | 340£ | Fan | [FLOLYMP13] | *txt |
Type 8 B 1911 | V8/air/90° | 70/120 | 40 | 1800 | 110 | 1420 | $1650 | prop not on camshaft? | [MCCOULL15] | |
V8/air/- | - | 40 | - | - | - | 320£ | - | [FLOLYMP14] | pg. 272 & 337 | |
V8/air/- | 75/120 | 40 | 1800 | 96 | ? | 8000F | [FLPARIS13] | data from text | ||
Type 8 A 1908 | V8/air/90° | 90/120 | - | - | 130 | ? | - | Renault Carb, Propeller on cankshaft, 2 fans, estimated 42 PS | [HUTH10] | pg. 242-246 |
Type 8 A 1908 | V8/air/90° | 90/120 | 45 | 1900 | 150 | ? | - | "square cooling flanges", 2 fans, normal rpm=950 | [SA1671S08] | pg 30 |
Type 8 Aa 1909 | V8/air/- | 90/120 | 50-60 | 1800 | 170 | ? | 420£ | Renault Carb | [FLPARIS12] | |
Type 8 Aa 1909 | V8/air/90° | 90/120 | 55 | 1800 | 170* | - | - | np=65.0lb/in2, 73.4bhp@1200rpm, Prop on camshaft, Fan | [FLCLARK12] | *no flywheel |
Type 8 Aa 1909 | V8/air/90° | 90/120 | 50 | 1800 | 170 | 1420 | $2040 | prop not on camshaft? | [MCCOULL15] | |
Type 8 Aa 1909 | V8/air/90° | 90/120 | 60ch | 1800 | 160* | ? | - | "Moteur de 50 chevaux", fuel 310gr/(h*ch) , oil 2.3 l/h | [MARTINO18] | *running order |
V8/air/- | 96/120 | 70 | 1800 | 180 | ? | 480£ | Renault Carb, 7.7/0.22 gal/h (Fuel/Oil) | [FLPARIS12] | ||
V8/air/90°* | 96/120 | 70 | 1800 | 180 | 1420 | 12000F | 1 magneto (camshaft)* | [FLPARIS13] | *txt | |
V8/air/90°* | 96/140 | 70 | - | 180 | - | 480£ | Fan | [FLOLYMP13] | *txt | |
V8/air/90° | 96/140 | 70 | 1800 | 180 | 1660 | $2330 | prop on camshaft, 0.64/0.045 lbs/(hp*h) fuel/oil | [MCCOULL15] | ||
V8/air/90°* | 96/120 | 70 | 1800 | 181 | - | 480£ | 0.64pints/(bhp*h) (fuel); Cast Iron Cyl. | [FLOLYMP14] | *txt/pic pg.272 | |
V8/air/90° | 96/120 | 70ch | 1800 | 200 | ? | - | "type 70 chevaux", 33/2.5 l/h (fuel/oil) | [MARTINO18] | ||
V8/air/90° | 96/120 | 78 | 1800 | 180* | - | - | np=79.8lb/in2, 102.6bhp@1200rpm, Prop on camshaft, no Fan | [FLCLARK12] | *no flywheel | |
V8/air/90° | 96/120 | 78 | 1800 | 180* | - | - | np=72.6lb/in2, 0.64/0.045 lb/(bhp*h) (Fuel/Oil), 21.37 % Brake therm. efficiency, 102.6bhp@1200rpm, 3.2/0.225 lb/(bhp*5hrs) @1200rpm (Fuel/Oil) | [FLCLARK12] | *no flywheel on this motor | |
Type 8 Ca 1913 | V8/air/90° | 105/130 | 80 | 1800 | 227* | 1538 | - | 549.5 cu in, compression 4.16, 102bhp, 0.66/0.055 lbs fuel/oil per bhp*h; B.M.E.P.=82; 21.05 Brake therm. eff. | [CHROLTN21] | pg 766, Table 11, *dry |
Type 8 Ca 1913 | V8/???/90°* | 105/130 | 85ch | ? | 225 | ? | - | mounting heads of rods like R.E.P. & Clerget | [MARTINO18] | *same general system |
V12/air/- | 96/120 | 100 | 1800 | 289 | ? | 680£ | Renault Carb, 11/0.66 gal/h (Fuel/Oil) | [FLPARIS12] | ||
V12/air/60° | 96/120 | 100 | 1800 | 290* | - | - | np=79.8lb/in2, 133.4bhp@1200rpm, Fan | [FLCLARK12] | *no flywheel | |
V12/air/60° | 96/140 | 90 | 1800 | 290 | ? | - | prop on camshaft, fan on crankshaft | [HUPPERT13] | ||
V12/air/60°* | 96/140 | 90-100 | - | 290 | - | 680£ | Fan | [FLOLYMP13] | *txt | |
V12/air/60°* | 96/140 | 100 | 1800 | 290 | - | 680£ | 0.64pints/(bhp*h) (fuel); Cast Iron Cyl. | [FLOLYMP14] | *txt/pic pg.272 | |
V12/air/60°* | 96/140 | 100 | 1800 | 289 | 1655 | 17000F | 2 magnetos (camshaft)* | [FLPARIS13] | cf. Flight 1912, pg.998; *txt | |
V12/air/60° | 96/140 | 100 | 1800 | 290 | 1660 | $3300 | prop on camshaft | [MCCOULL15] | ||
V12/air/- | 96/140 | - | 1800 | 217* | 1654 | - | Wolseley-Renault 1914, 113.5bhp, 0.66lb fuel/bhp*h, 392 kg (incl 4h fuel/oil), brake M.P.=33.64 lb in2 | [CHORLTN21] | pg 756, Table 5, *dry | |
V12/air/90° | 96/120 | 120ch | 1800? | 300 | ? | - | 2 magnetos | [MARTINO18] |
Renault, liquid cooled:
Engine config. |
Bore/Stroke (mm) |
hp | rpm | total weight |
piston speed (ft/min) |
Description | Source (year) |
Comment |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
I4/liq | 110/160 | 38.5 | 1100 | 286 lbs (dry) | 1155 | before 1910, B.M.E.P.=74.71 lb in2; | [CHORLTN21] | pg 753 |
V8/liq/- | ? | 130-150ch | ? | ? | - | - | [MARTINO18] | |
V12/liq/50° | 125/150 | 220 | 1300 | 951 lbs (dry) | 1081 | compression 4.36; 225bhp, 1348cu.in, 0.53/0.062 lbs fuel/oil per bhp*h | [CHORLTN21] | pg 765 |
V12/liq/50° | 124/150 | 240 | 1200 | ? | - | 1200 rpm normal speed, 25.81% Brake therm. eff. | [CHORLTN21] |
De Dion:
Engine config. |
Bore/Stroke (actual values) |
Cyl. bank angle |
hp | rpm | total weight |
piston speed |
price | Description | Source (year) |
Comment |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
V8/air | 100mm/120mm | - | 80 | 1700 | 220 kg | - | 480£ | DeDion Carb, 7/0.44 gal/h (Fuel/Oil) | [FLPARIS12] | |
V8/air | 100mm/120mm | 90° | 80+ | 1700 | 220*kg | - | - | np=79.9lb/in2, 55.7bhp@1200rpm, Prop on camshaft | [FLCLARK12] | +metric; *no flywheel |
V8/air | 100mm/120mm | 90° | - | - | - | - | - | blower fan | [FLDDION13] | |
V8/air | 100mm/120mm | 90° | 80 | 1700 | 200 kg | 1340ft/min | $2340 | 50lbs/(hp*h) fuel, | [MCCOULL15] | |
V8/air | 104mm/120mm | 90° | 80ch | 1800 | 213 kg | - | - | 35/3 l/h (fuel/oil); ext. like Renault; L/W/H=1324/960/940mm | [MARTINO18] | |
V8/air | 106mm/120mm | 90° * | 80 | 1800 | 211 kg | 1420ft/min | 13000F | blade&fork* | [FLPARIS13] | cf. Flight 1912, pg.998; *txt |
V8/liq | 120mm/130mm | 90° * | 80ch | ? | 220 kg | - | - | cast iron cyl. pairs with water jacket; fork&blade | [MARTINO18] | *pic |
V8/liq | * | 90° * | 140ch | ? | ? | - | - | * like 80ch V8/liq from [MARTINO18] but greater dimensions | [MARTINO18] | |
V8/liq | 125mm/150mm | - | 150 | 1600 | 439 kg | - | - | DeDion Carb, 10.5/0.7 gal/h (Fuel/Oil) | [FLPARIS12] | |
V8/liq | 125mm/150mm | 90° | 150+ | 1600 | 439*kg | - | - | np=81.5lb/in2, 110.9bhp@1200rpm | [FLCLARK12] | +metric; *no flywheel/water/pipeing |
Sources:
- [FLPARIS13]: Flight 1914, Aero Engines at Paris Show 1913, pages 121/191/192, http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1914/1914%20-%200192.html
- [FLPARIS12]: Flight 1912, Aero Motors Exhibited at the Paris Aero Salon, http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1912/1912%20-%201080.html
- [FLCLARK12]: Aeronautical Engines, A. Graham Clark, Flight 1912/1913, pages 1175-, http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1912/1912%20-%201175.html
- [FLOLYMP13]: Flight 1913, The Engines at Olympia, page 230, http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1913/1913%20-%200224.html
- [FLOLYMP14]: Flight 1914, Aeronautical Engines at Olympia 1914, http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1914/1914%20-%200269.html
- [AZPARIS09]: Allgemine Automobil-Zeitung 1909, http://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/anno?apm=0&aid=aaz&datum=19091003&seite=31&zoom=2
- [AZPARIS10]: Allgemine Automobil-Zeitung 1910, http://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/anno?apm=0&aid=aaz&datum=19101023&seite=8&zoom=2
- [FLDDION13]: De Dion engine picture, Flight 1913, page 857, http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1913/1913%20-%200831.html
- [MARTINO18]: Cpt. C. Martinot-Lagarde, Les moteurs d'aviation 1918, page 122-
- [HUTH10]: Fritz Huth, Luftfahrzeugbau: Konstruktion von Luftschiffen und Flugmaschinen, 2. Auflage 1910, http://books.google.com/books?id=gq1XAAAAYAAJ
- [HUPPERT13]: Siegmund Huppert, Leitfaden der Flugtechnik, 1913 (http://books.google.com/books?id=d7NFAAAAMAAJ)
- [CHORLTN21]: Aero Engines, Chorlton A E L, 1921, Journal of the American Society of Naval Engineers, Volume 33 Issue 4, pp 738
- [SA1671S08]: Gasoline Motors for Aeronautical Work, Scientific American Supplement No. 1671, 1908, pp 28
- [MCCOULL15]: MacCoull Neil, Table of the principle specifications of aeroplane engines, Aerial Age Weekly, Volume 1, 1915, pp 498
Aircraft equipped with Renault engines (WIP)
[edit]According to aviafrance.com (WIP)
[edit]Engine | Power [ch] | Aircraft | Year |
---|---|---|---|
Renault 8B | 70 | Farman MF-6 | 1911 |
Renault | 70 | Farman MF-7 | 1913 |
Renault 8C | 100 | Farman MF-8 | 1913 |
Renault 8B | 70 | Farman MF-9 | 1913 |
Renault | 100 | Farman MF-11 | 1914 |
Renault 12Fa | 220 | Farman HF-36 | 1916 |
Renault 8Gc | 160 | Farman F-40bis | 1916 |
Renault 8C | 130 | Farman F-1,40 | 1916 |
Renault 8C | 130 | Farman F-40 | 1915 |
Renault 8Ga | 160 | Farman F-1,40 bis type 60 | 1916 |
Renault 8B | 80 | Farman F-41 | 1915 |
Renault 8B | 80 | Farman F-41 H | 1917 |
Renault 8B | 80 | Farman F-1,41 type 70 | 1916 |
Renault 12Fa | 220 | Farman F-43 | 1916 |
Renault 8Gc | 170 | Farman F-45 | 1916 |
Renault 8B | 80 | Farman F-1,46 | 1918 |
Renault 8B | 80 | Farman F-46 | 1918 |
Renault 8B | 80 | Farman F-46 | 1918 |
According to Davilla, Soltan - French Aircraft of the First World War (WIP)
[edit]Engine | Power [ch] | Aircraft (Army type) | Year | pages | comment |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
Renault 8Gd | 190 | A.R.1 | 1916 | 37 | |
Renault 8Gd/Gdx | 190 | A.R.2 | 1916 | 37 | |
Renault 12d | ? | A.R.1 D2 Trainer | 1916 | 37 | maybe a Renault 12Db 130hp |
Renault 12Db | 130 | Caudron R.4 | 1917 | 166 | some good photos of engine installation |
Renault 8B | 70 | Maurice Farman M.F.2 | 1911 | 206 | |
Renault 8B | 70 | Maurice Farman M.F.6 | 1911 | 206 | |
Renault 8B | 70 | Maurice Farman M.F.7 | 1913 | 222 | |
Renault 8B | 80 | Maurice Farman M.F.11 | 1914 | 223, 232 | |
Renault 8C | 130 | Maurice Farman M.F.11bis | 1914 | 223, 232 | |
Renault 8C | 100 | Maurice Farman M.F.11bis (Type 27) | 1914 | 223, 232 | |
Renault 8C | 100 | Maurice Farman M.F.12 (Type 26) | 1914 | 232 | |
Renault 8C | 130 | Farman F.40 (Type 26) | 1915 | 234, 240 | |
Renault 8Gc | 160 | Farman F.40bis (Type 56) | 1915 | 234, 240 | water cooled (see picture page 235) |
Renault 8B | 80 | Farman F.41 | 1915 | 241 | |
Renault 8B | 80 | Farman F.1,41 (Type 70) | 1916 | 242 | |
Renault 8C | 130 | Farman F.1,40 (Type 40) | 1916 | 242 | |
Renault 8C | 160 | Farman F.1,40bis (Type 60) | 1916 | 242 | water cooled (see pictures page 243) |
Other
[edit]Aircraft | Year | Engine | Configuration | visible features | Reference |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
Maurice Farman M.F.7 | 1913 | Renault 80 hp or 70 hp? | V8@90° | air | |
B.E.1 | 1912 | Renault 60 hp | V8@90° | air | Munson |
B.E.2 | 1912 | Renault 70 hp | V8@90° | air | Munson |
B.E.2a | 1912 | Renault 60 hp? | V8@90° | air | |
B.E.2b | ? | Renault 70 hp | V8@90° | air | |
B.E.2c | 1914 | Renault 70 hp | V8@90° | air | |
Farman F.40 | 1915 | Renault 135 of 140? hp | V12@90°? | push, ex.u, one photo with water cooler? | http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3307/4626550430_00d0049fd7_z.jpg |
Voisin 10 | Renault 300 hp | V12@50° | liq, ovhd, ex.c, in.o | ||
Caudron R.4 | 1915 | Renault 12Db 130 hp | 2x V12@90° | air | Caudron R.4 |
Dorand AR.1 | ? | ? | V8@? | liq? | |
Breguet 14 | 1917 | Renault 300 hp | V12@50°? | liq, ovhd, ex.c, in.o |
ad. Farman F 40:
- list of Farman types with engines listed: http://www.aviafrance.com/constructeur.php?ID_CONSTRUCTEUR=501
features legend:
abbrev | feature |
---|---|
air | air cooling |
liq | liquid cooling |
ovhd | overhead camshaft |
push | pushrods visible |
ex.c | exhaust to the center |
ex.u | exhaust to the inner/upper side of the cylinders |
in.c | intake in the center |
in.o | intake on the outside |
Renault aircooled aero engines (WIP)
[edit]Renault liquid cooled V-8 aero engines (WIP)
[edit]Engine | Bore/Stroke | compression | type | Rated HP |
Rated RPM |
Normal HP |
Normal RPM |
Max HP |
Max RPM |
weight | Magnetos | Water pumps | Comment |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Renault 170 hp | 125/150 | Vee 50° | 170 | 1300 | 183 | 1400 | 190 | 1450 | 4 | 2 | [1] | ||
Renault | 125/150 | 4.5 | Vee 50° | ? | ? | ? | ? | 198 | 1550 | 474 lbs | 4 | 1 | [2] |
Renault 200 hp | 125/150 | 5.0 | Vee 47.5° | 200 | 1800 | ? | ? | 210 | 1840 | 510 lbs (dry) | 4 | 2 | [3] |