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Trisakti Tragedy

Are you still looking for someone to translate id:Tragedi Trisakti? I can help. Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:52, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

I'm going to assume that you are Indonesian (sorry if I am wrong), so I will use Indonesian for any collaboration. Saya akan mengasumsi bahwa Saudara adalah orang Indonesia, maka saya akan berbahasa Indonesia saja untuk kerja sama kita (kalau ada). Saya sudah copy versi bahasa Indonesia ke User:Crisco 1492/Trisakti shootings dan akan mengembangkannya di sana. Kalau mau bantu, bantuannya amat dihargai. Namun, saya minta agar kita jangan terburu-buru. Kualitas sumber yang diwajibkan di sini lebih tinggi daripada di Wikipedia bahasa Indonesia. Saya punya buku dari Solidaritas Nusa Bangsa dan beberapa artikel Tempo yang dapat kita menggunakan.

Mohon maaf apabila pengembangan artikel ini agak lama. Saya hari kemarin menulis "Lilin-Lilin Kecil" dan mengembangkan artikelnya Chrisye, jadi agak capek. Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:18, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Baik. Saya rencananya mau melanjutkan perkembangan terjemahan hari besok atau Selasa karena sudah malam dan besok ada kuliah, tapi kalau Saudara Redyka mau mengembangkan atau bantu menerjemahkan artikel yang ada di user space saya, silahkan. Harapan saya agar kita bisa mengembangkan artikel dengan baik sehingga dapat dimuat di Halaman Utama dalam bagian DYK. Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:10, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Saya sudah mengembangkan artikel dengan cukup baik. Harapannya saya dapat menyelesaikannya hari besok. Terima kasih untuk saran dan bantuannya. Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:17, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

The article is now live at Trisakti shootings. It is quite different from the original though. Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:01, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome. Cheers! Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:40, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing the death dates. I can't believe I missed them. Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:54, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Agreed. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:02, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

RE: Koentjaraningrat

Bisa, tapi pertama kita harus mempunyai sumber terpercaya. Takutnya dinominasi untuk dihapus kalau belum bisa menunjukkan kalau Prof. Koentjaraningrat memang penting. Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:09, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Hasilnya dapat dibaca di User:Crisco 1492/Koentjaraningrat. Saya masih tengah menambahkan sumber. Versi aslinya kurang sekali. Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:35, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Untuk mencari sumber yang baik, dapat digunakan filter seperti -facebook, -blogspot, -wikipedia, dan sebagainya supaya situs-situs itu tidak muncul. Saya sendiri menggunakan www.google.ca, maka yang diutamakan ialah hasil dari bahasa Inggris. Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:16, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

RE: Achmad Soebardjo

Saya sudah coba memperbaiki kesalahan yang ada. Namun, ada yang perlu diingat. Ada beberapa pernyataan yang perlu diberi sumber. Tidak apa-apa kalau bukan bahasa Inggris, tapi harus ada. Salam! Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:09, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Itu tampaknya blog, maka saya agak ragu-ragu. Kalau masih bimbang, bisa tanya di WP:RSN. Lebih banyak orang yang ahli di sana, biarpun harus berbahasa Inggris. Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:39, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Trisakti shootings

Materialscientist (talk) 00:02, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

RE: Mohammad Roem

Saya sudah berusaha untuk membantu. Ada beberapa catatan yang saya tulis dalam tulisan tersembunyi (yang hanya dapat dilihat di edit window) yang mengenai ketidakjelasan. Maukah artikel ini diajukan di bagian Did You Know?? Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:22, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Boleh. Saya ajukan sebentar lagi, kalau sudah mengembangkan bagian tentang kematian mendiang. Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:01, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Saya memang bukan ahli templat, tapi tampaknya fungsi {{harv}} itu untuk tulisan sumber singkat untuk catatan kaki, dengan nama lengkap buku di bawah. Singkatnya itu supaya mudah dibaca. Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:17, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Agus Salim

Kalau Saudara tertarik, artikel kita mengenai Agus Salim masih kurang sekali. Kalau Saudara tertarik, mungkin bisa menjadi proyek berikutnya. Saya bisa memeriksanya, tapi untuk sementara belum ada waktu untuk mengembangkannya sendiri. Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:45, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Sip. Saya sarankan artikel itu karena sepertinya Saudara tertarik dengan artikel-artikel mengenai founding fathers-nya Indonesia. Semoga berhasil! Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:51, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Adoptasi

Redyka masih cari editor untuk menjadi pemandu (untuk mengadoptasi Redyka)? Saya bersedia. Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:22, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Oke, Redyka tertarik dengan artikel-artikel mengenai apa? Di user page ditulis musik, tapi apakah itu musik mutakhir atau musik klasik? Tertarik dengan bagian apa saja dari Wikipedia? Biar saya bisa membuat daftar tugas supaya Redyka menjadi terbiasa dengan dunia Wikipedia. (Omong-omong, Redyka mau dipanggil apa? Dik, Mas, atau Saudara?) Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:07, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Oke, Dik aja; Saudara terasa kaku banget. Saya akan membuat daftar tugas (dalam bahasa Inggris) di user space saya, kalau sudah selesai silahkan dikerjakan. Tidak perlu buru-buru, dan memang lebih baik memahami kebijakannya dulu. Kalau ada pertanyaan mengenai tugasnya, silahkan bertanya di talk page saya. Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:28, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Kalau mau agak gaul, ya gua bisa-bisa aja sih, cuma ndak nyaman gitu. :-p Pakai bahasa sehari-hari tak apa-apa. Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:37, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Sepertinya itu bisa. Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:51, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Maaf mengganggu percakapannya. Kalau adik ingin menggunakan thesis sebagai sumber, bisa memakai templat {{Cite thesis}}. Penggunaannya harus hati-hati karena kita harus melihat apakah thesis itu adalah yang final dan sudah di-review oleh para dosen. Kalau cuma draft, sebaiknya jangan dipakai. —Arsonal (talk + contribs)— 07:56, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Biasanya bisa di-cek dengan WorldCat. Kalau sumbernya udah masuk, pasti bisa dipakai karena sudah ada di berbagai perpustakaan di dunia. Contohnya disini, karena dokumennya sudah ada data ISBN. —Arsonal (talk + contribs)— 08:11, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Itu juga bisa. Aku sih biasa pakai {{Citation}} karena cakupannya lebih luas dan templat itu juga bisa digunakan dengan {{Harvnb}}. Kalau artikelnya besar, bagian referensinya bisa dibaca lebih mudah seperti di May 1998 riots of Indonesia dan Chinese Indonesians. —Arsonal (talk + contribs)— 08:25, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Hehe, Arsonal begitu baik juga. Redyka, tugas sudah siap. Tidak perlu buru-buru, santai saja. Kalau perlu bantuan silahkan menghubungi saya. Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:18, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Tak apa-apa, tidak buru-buru. Kalau mau pakai Agus Salim buat program adopsi juga boleh. Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:36, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Baik, saya usahakan. Internetnya lagi lemot maka saya tidak tahu bisa seberapa. Tak apa-apa saya dipanggil mas, kalau di kampus saya malah diberi jelukan Mas Chrisye Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:47, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Redyka mau mengajukannya untuk DYK sendiri, atau saya? Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:36, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Agus Salim. Kan, mencapai pengembangan 5x. Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:42, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Wekekek. Ya, bisa... tapi harus setidaknya 5x perkembangannya (huruf, bukan ukuran dalam byte) Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:57, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Terima kasih sudah beri tahu. Harusnya Sukarno Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:37, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Saya baru tulis kalau Redyka sudah bisa format. Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:12, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

1a dan b sudah jelas bisa, tapi lainnya saya belum pernah lihat. Coba ditunjukkan. Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:20, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

RE: Create a new music article

Kalau untuk album Barat, ada daftar di sini. Kalau tentang band atau artis, koran atau buku (baik bahasa Inggris maupun bahasa Indonesia) boleh. Coba site search di Jakarta Post, Jakarta Globe, Kompas, atau Antara. Kapanlagi.com boleh, tapi hanya artikelnya; blog atau forum tidak boleh. Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:44, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Oh ya, Rolling Stone Indonesia juga boleh. Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:46, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Belum. Masih 1341 characters (tidak menghitung yang ada di Infobox atau kutipan langsung) Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:21, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Beberapa sumber berbahasa Inggris mungkin dapat diperoleh dari ini. Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:21, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Hmm... :-| Dua-duanya merupakan sumber terpercaya. Namun, kalau terpilih sebagai salah satu album terbaik sepanjang masa oleh RSI, berarti harusnya dirilis sebelum Desember 2007. Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:53, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Oh, maaf saya salah baca artikelnya; itu dipilih sebagai salah satu album terbaik tahun 2007. Kalau Bowie sendiri... tidak tahu. Coba ditulis "in 2007(sumber) or 2008(sumber)" supaya masih bisa dimasukkan. Kalau punya album "Turn It On" lebih gampang dipastikan, tinggal lihat liner notes-nya. Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:59, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Bagus. Mau dibawa ke DYK untuk nomor 4e sekalian? Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:17, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Oh ya, untuk info tentang band-nya jangan takut menggunakan situs resmi mereka, asal dituliskan dengan NPOV ketika diterjemahkan di sini. Masih ada dua album lagi yang belum masuk artikel. Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:25, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Iya. Tidak perlu sesuai urutan di sana, asalkan semua selesai. Kalau diajukan di DYK dan diminta dipaparkan di tanggal 26 besok, sangat bagus rasanya (kan, pas mereka mau konser di London) Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:37, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Saya sudah memberi beberapa hook alternatif dan memperbaiki grammar Redyka di hook asli. Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:37, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Jangan lupa dicek kadang-kadang. Kadang ada masalah yang harus dibahas dulu. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:30, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Re:Kick Andy

Kalau acaranya, Template:Infobox television. Kalau host-nya, Template:Infobox person. Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:11, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

RE: DYK

Maksudnya, kalau Redyka setuju dengan ALT-nya baiknya kasih tahu di T:TDYK supaya dia bisa memberi atau (alias menyetujuinya) Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:32, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Up to you lah, tinggal pilih ALT yang disukai lalu bilang "I prefer (ALT berapa)" atau semacam itu. DYK itu merupakan kerja sama; kita semua boleh komentar, dan boleh menyetujui atau mereview usulan, asal sesuai dengan peraturannya. Boleh juga menolak ketika me-review, asal sesuai dengan peraturan. Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:40, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Sepertinya oke, tapi kalau ada yang bukan dari bagian opini lebih baik lagi. Informasi yang mau didukung apa? Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:52, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Dan juga pendapat penulis tentang band-nya, misalnya "They ave been described as a pop band with a social and political message" atau apa. Kalau sejarah band-nya, mendingan dari website mereka sendiri kalau ada. Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:00, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Ah. Berarti artikel dari Malaysia itu bisa dipakai. Coba beberapa artikel dari sini juga. Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:52, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Sudah, tampaknya. Artikel ini sudah bisa lulus pedoman Wikipedia, maka bisa digunakan. Namun, perlu ada yang merevisi (bahasanya masih kacau) Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:45, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Mungkin dia kurang senang (saya memang tidak tahu, dan mungkin itu maksud dia ketika membicarakan nuance), tapi yang pokok itu bahwa saya sudah mengklasifikasi banyak artikel untuk WikiProject Indonesia, maka dia mau ucapkan terima kasih.Omong-omong Redyka sudah gabung dengan WikiProject? Kalau Efek Rumah Kaca, saya bisa periksa. Tapi mulai tanggal 16 besok saya kemungkinan besar akan jarang bisa membantu selama 2 minggu. Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:58, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK review done!

I have reviewed you DYK. I ok with ALT2 too. Great job. Feel free to contact me anytime for anything on WP. All the best. A FRIEND CALLED -- CrossTempleJay  → talk 19:46, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Agus Salim

Materialscientist (talk) 18:03, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Mohammad Roem

The DYK project (nominate) 06:04, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Gugun Blues Shelter

The DYK project (nominate) 12:03, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Terjemahan

Redyka bisa bahasa Bali, kah? Saya lagi cari yang bisa. Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:17, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Oke, terima kasih. Saya sudah tanya dia. Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:55, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Kamar Gelap

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Benyamin Sueb

Aku kemarin sempet mampir ke Karet Bivak dan tahu2 ada makam Benyamin S. Aku udah nambah gambar ke artikelnya dia. Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:35, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

• Wah, kemarin cuma 2 hari 1 malam. Saya membantu Wikimedia Indonesia mengurus proyek dengan Yayasan Lontar. Sayangnya kemarin tidak sempat beli roti buaya untuk difoto. Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:08, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

• Kata koncoku ada toko roti di sini yang jual roti buaya; entah kalau masih asli atau nggak. Coba besok tak cari. Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:52, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Ebiet

Hei, Redyka kayaknya cukup ngefans sama Ebiet... ini ada tanda tangannya!

Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:03, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

• Kemarin mampir Resto Pringsewu dan ada tanda tangannya dipasang di dinding (bersama puluhan lain). Saya juga dapat Titiek Puspa, Amien Rais, Didi Petet, dan beberapa lagi. Sayang sekali tidak ada Chrisye! Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:12, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Gombloh

Materialscientist (talk) 12:38, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Mohammad Natsir

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