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George Lattimore

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I challenge you to add anything to this article not about the SSO! There is an interesting pan-African angle to it but precious little by way of material. Philafrenzy (talk) 23:14, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of London's third airport

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Avono♂ (talk) 14:50, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Hey Leutha - help me set up Class Wargames commons & article (I'm useless at this)

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Hey - can you help me set up class wargames commons & article - I'm useless at this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_Wargames

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Class_Wargames

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Class_Wargames

trying to make a repository gallery for our CWG images, and then have each event as a subcategory, make sense?

best, 

James Moulding (talk) 18:10, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

November 2014

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Workshop

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Good to see you at the meetup recently. Just to let you know that a few people here are interested in the workshop idea, so I'll be in touch by email shortly. I'm going to copy our Training Officer into the email so that you'll have each other's contact details and will be able to cut out the go-between if necessary. Hope that sounds good.

Thanks for the links, by the way. The requirement for a JSTOR account is 1000 edits: I've a way to go, but it is quite motivating to have a target! Crinoline (talk) 08:14, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

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Darwin Nature Reserve

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Would you please immediately add reliable sources here, otherwise it qualifies as an attack page. Thank you.--Ymblanter (talk) 12:43, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

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Your post on l-Wikipedia re Nathanial Tkacz's book review comment

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Hi, I noticed that you had responded in kind [1] to my post on the THE review of Nathanial Tkacz's book, "Wikipedia and the Politics of Opennesss" [2]:

In the Times comment I said that "And the content creators get nothing." However, my previous comments on Wikipediocracy [3] and on my blog [4] have explored the value contributors get from Wikipedia. Some users, like you, use Wikipedia as a tool, in the same way that people use YouTube as a tool for sharing videos. The combination of a tool to save work, fact checking and comparison from other users, and large audience, has value to most contributors. Some are in it for the ability to record information, some are in it for the fight, all are in it because of the size. Each of these values has issues: Your notes can be vandalized or erased. The presentation of notes is limited (no video for example). You may not want to fight. You may not want to learn thousands of rules. The fight excludes women and minorities. The size crowds out other tools, that may be better.

The large scale of Wikipedia is really the main motivator. If someone were to start Wikipedia now, the inferior tools, excessive fighting and lack of compensation would not be able to attract users. Similarly, if the site dropped in popularity, contributors would lose interest. Why use crappy tools and go through all that fighting when other tools make it easier? The software tool has not evolved to meet the demands of the market.

However, the main difference to a tool like YouTube is that work on that site is also rewarded financially. There are many YouTube millionaires. It doesn't detract from the tool to actually pay the contributors, it gives a positive incentive for people to continue to improve and maintain the content. Because there is no such feedback loop in Wikipedia, the updating of content is falling by the wayside, and the site's quality is declining.

The main thrust of my post is that you think you are contributing to a "free" resource, but other people are making all the money. Google; other sites that reuse Wikipedia content; Jimmy Wales; the WMF are benefiting in different degrees from the free work of millions of people. Some of that may be open and can be justified, but some are benefiting in ways that are not obvious to ordinary users. How about I sell the tool this way: "We will give you a handy free tool so you can collate work, and have people fact checking your notes. The sum of your work, added to many other people doing the same thing, will create a free encyclopedia that millions can use. It won't take ads and will be structured as a charity" Ok so far, right? But let's add the kicker: "...and Google will make billions off of your work" Not quite the same is it?

In any case, most people who have contributed to Wikipedia in the past will probably accept that their contributions are being used for purposes beyond what they expect. I believe that future projects should have more explicit sharing of revenues. All the best. -- Sparkzilla talk! 03:05, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

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