User:Irtapil/List of unconfirmed events during the 2023 Israel–Palestine war

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old name User:Irtapil/List of massacres during the 2023 Israel–Palestine war

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A collaborative workspace to collect partial or unconfirmed reports of massacres and other key events in the 2023 Israel–Palestine war. So we can share leads and eventually add them to various wiki pages when we have collected sufficient reliable citations.

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"Pogrom" in the west bank before 7 October - ei on Youtube - mentioned in passing hottest the start.

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Possible event	Date			Places or names			Details		Sources ^[a]			Wiki usage
Possible event	Reported	Began	Ended	English	العربية	Hebrew	Original	Eng	Good	Maybe	Un-useable	Pages ^[b]	Draft ^[c]

Kataeb Abu Ali claiming 7 October	2023-10-07	2023-10-07		Abu Ali Mustafa Brigades	كتائب أبو علي		^[d]	^[e]
	2023-10-07	2023-10-07		Abu Ali Mustafa Brigades	كتائب أبو علي		^[f]	^[g]
first clip released by Kataeb Abu Ali	2023-10-08			Abu Ali Mustafa Brigades				^[h]
They kept a running tally of the death count ^[i]	2023-10-08						^[j]
They kept a running tally of the death count ^[i]	2023-10-09				كتائب أبو علي		^[k]
Bibas family held by PFLP		2023-10		Bibas
This a was young militant killed in the west bank.		but I failed to note when			سليمان		^[l]					West Bank
	2023-10-08	2023-10-08		Holeit	حوليت		^[m]	^[n]				Battle of Sufa
	2023-10-08	2023-10-08		Sufa	صوفا		^[m]	^[n]				Battle of Sufa
Battle of Sufa lasted nearly a week				صوفا
Al Qassam still in Israel on 11 or 12 October	2023-10-12 interview published									Osama Hamdan - Radio 786
	2023-10-01			Hanadi Halawani			^[o]
Erez Border Crossing attacked		2023-10-07 morning		Erez Border Crossing			^[p] [1]		toi			List of engagements during the Israel-Hamas war
election in Palestine	2021									toi ^[q]

^ Please insert as formatted citation, or put links in single square brackets to save space. DON'T link anything that might be illegal to view or share in a lot of countries English language wiki editors are from, just give some key details in the description that we can use to find it elsewhere.
^ Wiki pages this belong on if this belongs on if confirmed.
^ Draft text in English, ready to paste into Wikipedia.
^ كتائب الشهيد أبو علي مصطفى في حالة استنفار قصوى وتعمل ميدانيا على الأرض في عدة محاور من ما يسمى غلاف غزة إلى جانب رفاق الدم والسلاح والقادم أعظم. نصرٌ أو استشهاد..
^ The Martyr Abu Ali Mustafa Brigades are in a state of maximum alert and are working on the ground on the ground in several axes of the so-called Gaza envelope, alongside our comrades in blood and arms, and what is coming is greater. Victory or martyrdom...
^ تواصل مجموعات من كتائب الشهيد أبو علي مصطفى العمل على الأرض بكل بسالة، بدك المغتصبات الصهيونية برشقات صاروخية متواصلة، في اطار اسناد مقاتلينا ورفاقنا واخواننا بمستوطنات الغلاف الذين يسيطرون على عدد منها.
^ translation unclear, seems to be claiming rocket attacks on "settlements" while allies attack on the ground? "Groups of the Martyr Abu Ali Mustafa Brigades continue to work on the ground with all valor, destroying the Zionist settlements with continuous missile barrages, within the framework of supporting our fighters, comrades and brothers in the cover settlements, who control a number of them." Note: Kataeb Abu Ali don't distinguish settlers vs kibbutzniks, and in this particular example they seem to be using an offensive slur, which is also used by Al Qassam, and which leads to some very weird machine translations. Or it could just be a very weird quirk of Arabic vocabulary.
^ caption to video مشاهد من اقتحام مقاتلي كتائب الشهيد أبو علي مصطفى لمواقع العدو العسكرية شرق غزة.
^ and they seemed to think it rising was a good thing?
^ عاجل
^ عاجل
^ عائلة الشهيد سليمان تلقي نظرة الوداع على نجلها الذي ارتقى برصاص الاحتلال على المدخل الشمالي لمدينة البيرة.
^ تواصل الاشتباكات بين مجاهدي القسام وقوات الاحتلال في عدة محاور منها: موقع "صوفا" وكيبوتس "حوليت" ضمن معركة طوفان الأقصى
^ Clashes continue between the Al-Qassam Mujahideen and the occupation forces in several areas, including: the “Sufa” site and the “Holeit” kibbutz within the Battle of Al Aqsa Flood.
^ Israeli occupation forces assault Hanadi Halawani, a well-known woman defender of the Al-Aqsa Mosque, while peacefully protesting in the Old City of Jerusalem against the provocative incursions of hundreds of settlers into the holy compound, today.
^ "On the morning of October 7, Hamas terrorists blew up and burst through the barriers separating Erez from the Gaza Strip, and poured into the complex. Unwatchable footage shows them killing some of the utterly unprepared, hopelessly outnumbered complement of soldiers on duty, and abducting others into Gaza."
^ doesn't cover outcome or election even actually happening

references from table

media guide

sources with unknown status

Electronic Intifada - it is biased, but is it officially "depreciated"?

recently eaten by a platypus

relevant official "depreciated sources"

please add more

??

preferred sources

please add more

Al Jazeera (disliked by a lot of Israelis, but trusted by everyone else, except on topics directly related to the Qatari government)
Haaretz - user:irtapil has a subscription if you want full text links, I don't know if gift links work for refs? but I can share with other editors.
Times of Israel
BBC
France 24
ABC Australia
SBS Australia
Axios

Good international independents

unlikely to cover much, but if they do it's probably reliable

Biased but usable

pro IS bias

Haaretz & Times of Israel

Still some Israeli bias, but more critical of Israel than the others

pro PS bias

TRT - Turkish state media
Middle East Eye

others with a catch

Al Arabiya - Saudi state media

unfamiliar sources

add any you're unfamiliar with

Refs

[1] Please insert as formatted citation, or put links in single square brackets to save space. DON'T link anything that might be illegal to view or share in a lot of countries English language wiki editors are from, just give some key details in the description that we can use to find it elsewhere.

[2] Wiki pages this belong on if this belongs on if confirmed.

[3] Draft text in English, ready to paste into Wikipedia.

[4] كتائب الشهيد أبو علي مصطفى في حالة استنفار قصوى وتعمل ميدانيا على الأرض في عدة محاور من ما يسمى غلاف غزة إلى جانب رفاق الدم والسلاح والقادم أعظم. نصرٌ أو استشهاد..

[5] The Martyr Abu Ali Mustafa Brigades are in a state of maximum alert and are working on the ground on the ground in several axes of the so-called Gaza envelope, alongside our comrades in blood and arms, and what is coming is greater. Victory or martyrdom...

[6] تواصل مجموعات من كتائب الشهيد أبو علي مصطفى العمل على الأرض بكل بسالة، بدك المغتصبات الصهيونية برشقات صاروخية متواصلة، في اطار اسناد مقاتلينا ورفاقنا واخواننا بمستوطنات الغلاف الذين يسيطرون على عدد منها.

[7] translation unclear, seems to be claiming rocket attacks on "settlements" while allies attack on the ground? "Groups of the Martyr Abu Ali Mustafa Brigades continue to work on the ground with all valor, destroying the Zionist settlements with continuous missile barrages, within the framework of supporting our fighters, comrades and brothers in the cover settlements, who control a number of them." Note: Kataeb Abu Ali don't distinguish settlers vs kibbutzniks, and in this particular example they seem to be using an offensive slur, which is also used by Al Qassam, and which leads to some very weird machine translations. Or it could just be a very weird quirk of Arabic vocabulary.

[8] tion to video مشاهد من اقتحام مقاتلي كتائب الشهيد أبو علي مصطفى لمواقع العدو العسكرية شرق غزة.

[9] they seemed to think it rising was a good thing?

[10] عاجل

[11] عاجل

[12] عائلة الشهيد سليمان تلقي نظرة الوداع على نجلها الذي ارتقى برصاص الاحتلال على المدخل الشمالي لمدينة البيرة.

[13] تواصل الاشتباكات بين مجاهدي القسام وقوات الاحتلال في عدة محاور منها: موقع "صوفا" وكيبوتس "حوليت" ضمن معركة طوفان الأقصى

[14] Clashes continue between the Al-Qassam Mujahideen and the occupation forces in several areas, including: the “Sufa” site and the “Holeit” kibbutz within the Battle of Al Aqsa Flood.

[15] Israeli occupation forces assault Hanadi Halawani, a well-known woman defender of the Al-Aqsa Mosque, while peacefully protesting in the Old City of Jerusalem against the provocative incursions of hundreds of settlers into the holy compound, today.

[16] "On the morning of October 7, Hamas terrorists blew up and burst through the barriers separating Erez from the Gaza Strip, and poured into the complex. Unwatchable footage shows them killing some of the utterly unprepared, hopelessly outnumbered complement of soldiers on duty, and abducting others into Gaza."

[17] sn't cover outcome or election even actually happening

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