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Lesson 1: The Five Pillars

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"Imagine a world in which every single person on the planet is given free access to the sum of all human knowledge. That's what we're doing."

User:Jimbo Wales

One of the most important essays in Wikipedia is WP:FIVEPILLARS which is designed to eloquently sum up what we're here for.

  • Pillar one defines Wikipedia as an encyclopedia. It suggests some things that we are not. Thoughts about what we are not are covered in the deletion lesson.
  • Pillar two talks about neutrality, a concept that this lesson will be concentrating on.
  • Pillar three talks about free content. The Copyright lesson will go into this in more detail.
  • Pillar four talks about civility. Wikipedia is a collaborative working environment and nothing would ever get done if it wasn't. I'll go into civility more during the dispute resolution module.
  • Pillar five explains that Wikipedia does not have firm rules. This is a difficult concept and will be covered in the Policy and consensus lesson.

Once you get your head around these five pillars, you will be a Wikipedian and a good one at that. All 5 are covered in my adoption school, though at different lengths. Be aware that I don't know everything and I would doubt anyone who said they did.

How articles should be written

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The articles in Wikipedia are designed to represent the sum of human knowledge. Each article should be written from a neutral point of view – personal opinions such as right and wrong should never appear, nor should an editor's experience. Neutrality also means giving due weight to the different points of view. If the broad scientific community has one set of opinions, then the minority opinion should not be shown. An example is in medicine: if there was an article on, say treatment of a broken leg, a neutral article would not include anything on homeopathy.

To ensure that the information in an article is correct, Wikipedia has adopted a policy of verifiability. Anything written in Wikipedia should be available to confirm by looking at the associated reliable source. Wikipedia should not include anything not verifiable by seeing it is published elsewhere; in other words, it should not contain anything original.

Reliable sources

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So what is a source? Wikipedia uses the word source for three interchangeable ideas – a piece of work, the work's creator or the work's publisher. In general, you would expect a reliable source to be published materials with a reliable publication process, authors who are regarded as authoritative in relation to the subject, or both. This doesn't mean that a source that is reliable on one topic is reliable on every topic, it must be regarded as authoritative in that topic. So whilst "Airfix monthly" may be a good source on the first model aeroplane, I would not expect it to be authoritative on their full-size equivalent.

A source that is self-published is, in general, considered unreliable, unless it is published by a recognized expert in the field. This is a very rare exception, so self publishing is generally considered a no-no. This means that anything in a forum or a blog and even most websites are considered unreliable by default. One interesting sidepoint is on self-published sources talking about themselves. Obviously, a source talking about itself is going to be authoritative, but be careful that the source is not too self-serving; the article really should not be totally based on a direct source like that.

Mainstream news sources are generally considered reliable... but any single article should be assessed on a case-by-case basis. Some news organizations have been known to check their information on Wikipedia – so be careful not to get into a cyclic sourcing issue!

There's a lot more about what makes a source reliable here.

Communication

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Any questions or would you like to try the assignment? ––FormalDude (talk)

Hi @FormalDude I am ready to start thank you for this :) MrBauer24 (talk) 00:03, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
@MrBauer24: Please see the assignment for lesson 1 below. ––FormalDude (talk) 00:41, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
Hey @MrBauer24, just checking in. Will you be starting the assignment soon? ––FormalDude (talk) 03:29, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
@FormalDude: Hi thanks for checking in, I will be starting this tonight, apologies for the delay but I have had some medical issues that I needed to address. All sorted now, will start after work today 🙂 — Preceding unsigned comment added by MrBauer24 (talkcontribs) 06:57, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
@FormalDude: Hi , I have done this :)
@MrBauer24: I've graded the assignment, please see my comments below and let me know if you have any questions or if you're ready to move on. And don't forget to sign your comments in order for your pings to be sent. ––FormalDude (talk) 13:17, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
Hi @FormalDude - I think I get this, I am confused about the pinging though. I do the @ and then your name but it doesn't highlight your name? I try to do this and it does not work, I use the visual editor and the insert - your signature button is greyed out. I am very confused by this. MrBauer24 (talk)
@MrBauer24: Don't use the visual editor, use the source editor. Then you can simply copy the formatting that we've been using throughout. (I've correct the errors in your comments.) Sign your talk posts with four tildes ~~~~. The software will stick your signature and timestamp in, allowing the correct attribution to your comment. A ping has nothing to do the @ symbol, you need to use the {{Re}} template. See the example below. ––FormalDude (talk) 14:01, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
{{Re|Username}} Message text. ~~~~

@FormalDude: Okay, I think I got this and am ready to move on. Thank you for the explanation!. MrBauer24 (talk) 14:15, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Assignment

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This assignment is going to be based on questions. One word "Yes" or "No" answers are unacceptable. I want to see some evidence of a thought process. There's no time limit - answer in your own words and we'll talk about your answers.

1) You have just discovered from a friend that the new Ford Escort is only going to be available in blue. Can you add this to the Ford Escort article and why?

A - No, you should not add this information to the Ford Escort article on Wikipedia, as it is not a verifiable or notable fact. In order to add content to Wikipedia, it must be based on reliable sources and must be significant enough to meet the criteria for inclusion. Anecdotal information from a friend is not a reliable source and the color of a car model is not a significant enough detail to be included in an encyclopedia article about the vehicle.
Green checkmarkY Correct.

2) A mainstream newspaper has published a cartoon which you see is clearly racist as part of an article. Can you include this as an example of racism on the newspaper's article? What about on the racism article?

A - Yes, you can include this as an example of racism on the newspaper's article on Wikipedia, as long as it is properly sourced and presented with the appropriate context. The cartoon must be cited to a reliable source, and it should be clear that it has been widely recognized as a racist depiction. However, it is not appropriate to add it to the racism article on Wikipedia, as the article should focus on the concept of racism in general, rather than on individual instances of racism.
Green checkmarkY Partly correct. The reliable source must say that the cartoon is racist. If it does not, you would be guilty of original research.

3) You find an article that shows that people in the state of Ohio eat more butternut squashes than anywhere in the world and ranks each of the United States by squashes per head. Interestingly you find another article that ranks baldness in the United States and they are almost identical! Can you include this information anywhere on Wikipedia? Perhaps the baldness article or the butternut squash article?

A- No, this information is not suitable for inclusion on Wikipedia, as it does not meet the criteria for notability or relevance. While it may be interesting to some readers, the fact that people in Ohio eat more butternut squashes or that baldness rates in the United States are similar to squash consumption rates is not significant enough to be included in an encyclopedia article. Therefore, this information should not be added to either the baldness or butternut squash articles.
Green checkmarkY Correct. And correlation does not equal causation.

4) Would you consider BBC news a reliable source on The Troubles? Would you consider BBC news to be a reliable source on its rival, ITV?

A - BBC news is generally considered a reliable source on The Troubles, as it is an established news organization with a long history of reporting on the conflict. However, the reliability of any particular article or report will depend on the quality and accuracy of its sources, as well as the expertise and reputation of the journalists involved. Regarding ITV, BBC news may not be the most reliable source, as it may have a conflict of interest due to its rivalry with ITV. It is generally advisable to consult a range of sources to ensure accuracy and objectivity.
Green checkmarkY Correct.

5) Would you consider Ben and Jerry's official Facebook page a reliable source?

A- No, Ben and Jerry's official Facebook page would not be considered a reliable source on Wikipedia. Social media pages are generally not considered to be reliable sources, as they are not typically subject to fact-checking or editorial oversight. Instead, sources should come from reputable news outlets, academic publications, or other verifiable sources.
Red X symbolN Incorrect: Their official Facebook page (meaning it is verified to be Ben and Jerry's either by Facebook or some other way) could be used as WP:SELFCITE.

6) A "forum official" from the Daily Telegraph community forums comments on Daily Telegraph's stance on world hunger. Would this be a reliable source?

A- No, a forum official from a community forum would not be considered a reliable source on Wikipedia. Community forums are not generally subject to the same level of editorial oversight and fact-checking as mainstream media outlets or academic publications. Instead, sources should come from reputable news outlets, academic publications, or other verifiable sources.
Green checkmarkY Correct.

7) Would you have any problem with http://www.amazon.co.uk/ or an "iTunes" link being used in a music-related article?

A - It is generally not recommended to include direct links to commercial websites such as Amazon or iTunes on Wikipedia, as this may be seen as promotional or biased. Instead, sources should be cited in a neutral and objective manner, and readers can then access the information themselves by following the appropriate links.
Green checkmarkY Correct.

8) Would you have any issue with using the About Us page on Xerox as a source for the history section of the Xerox article.

A - Using the About Us page on Xerox as a source for the history section of the Xerox article would not be considered ideal, as it may be seen as self-promotional or biased. Instead, sources should be cited in a neutral and objective manner, and should ideally come from independent third-party sources.
Green checkmarkY Correct.

9) Everybody knows that the sky is blue right? An editor doesn't agree - he says it is bronze, do you need a source?

A - In this case, a source would be necessary to support the claim that the sky is bronze. While it may seem obvious that the sky is blue, all claims made in a Wikipedia article should be supported by verifiable sources. This ensures that the information presented on Wikipedia is accurate, objective, and supported by evidence.
Red X symbolN Incorrect: In fact, You don't need to cite that the sky is blue.

Lesson 2: Wikiquette

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WP:Wikiquette - or the etiquette of Wikipedia is something that you may already be familiar with, depending how much reading around the different wikipedia pages you've made.

I'm just going to highlight some of the important Wikiquette items that you should try and remember. It may help you out.

  • Assume good faith - This is fundamental and I'll be going over it again in dispute resolution. Editors here are trying to improve the encyclopedia. Every single member of the community. EVERY ONE. If you read a comment or look at an edit and it seems wrong in some way, don't just jump straight in. Try and see it from the other editors point of view, remembering that they are trying to improve the encyclopedia.
  • Sign your talk posts with four tildes ~~~~. The software will stick your signature and timestamp in, allowing the correct attribution to your comment. I have a script that reminds you to do this if you think you'll forget.
  • Try and keep to threading, replying to comments by adding an additional indentation, represented by a colon, :. I cover more about this in my basics of markup language lesson - let me know if you'd like to take it. Talk pages should something like this - Have a read of WP:THREAD to see how this works.
How's the soup? --[[User:John]]
:It's great!! --[[User:Jane]]
::I made it myself! --[[User:John]]
Let's move the discussion to [[Talk:Soup]]. --[[User:Jane]]
:I tend to disagree. --[[User:George]]

How's the soup? --John

It's great!! --Jane
I made it myself! --John

Let's move the discussion to Talk:Soup. --Jane

I tend to disagree. --George
  • Don't forget to assume good faith
  • There are a lot of policies and guidelines, which Wikipedians helpfully point you to with wikilinks. Their comments may seem brusque at first, but the linked document will explain their point much better than they may be able to.
  • Be polite, and treat others as you would want to be treated. For example, if someone nominated one of the articles you created for deletion, I'm sure you'd want to know about it, so if you are doing the nominating make sure you leave the article creator a notification.
  • Watch out for common mistakes.
  • Did I mention that you should assume good faith?
  • Comment on the edits. Not the editor. I'll cover this more in dispute resolution.

Communication

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@MrBauer24: Here's the next lesson! Any questions? ––FormalDude (talk) 14:28, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

@FormalDude: I think this all looks good :)
@MrBauer24: Ping me when you've completed the assignment below. ––FormalDude (talk) 21:45, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
@FormalDude: I have done this now MrBauer24 (talk) 09:54, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
@MrBauer24: Assignment graded. Please read my comments and see Help:Talk pages#Indentation for more information. As always, let me know if any more questions or if you're ready to move on. ––FormalDude (talk) 11:09, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
Just checking in. @MrBauer24: have you had time to read my grading yet? ––FormalDude (talk) 03:47, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
@FormalDude: hey yes sorry I have read this and am ready to move on. Sorry for the delay. MrBauer24 (talk) 19:33, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

Assignment

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Have a look at the conversation below:

What's the best car in the world? -- Rod
Probably something German or Japanese. -- Freddie
Like what -- Rod's Mate
I dunno, something like Volkswagon? -- Freddie
Volkswagon Passat --Passat Lover <-Postion:A
What do you want it for? -- Jane
Volkswagon Passat --Passat Lover <-Position:B

Well, the Passat lover clearly loves his Passat, but who is he replying to? In

1) Position A?

A- Freddie - This is on the same line and has the same amount of colons as the previous reply from Freddit
Red X symbolN Incorrect: In position A, Passat Lover is replying to Rod's Mate. Each reply receives an additional indentation.

2) Position B?

A- Difficult! I am a bit confused by this as there is only 1 colon, but there is also only 1 colon in the previous reply. I am thinking that potentially, Jane has got the reply wrong and replied to Freddit by putting 1 colon. I think Volkswagon passat has also replied to Freddit by putting 1 colon? Might be wrong with this one.
Red X symbolN Incorrect: In position B, Passat Lover is replying to the initial comment from Rod. Jane is replying to the same comment from Rod as well.

3) An editor who has a low edit count seems awfully competent with templates. Should he be reported as a possible WP:SOCK?

A- I dont think so, they might just have a lot of experience or done a lot of training on templates.
Green checkmarkY Correct.
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Welcome to the lesson discussing Copyright. It's one of the most important lessons I teach, because not adhering to it can lead to a ban from Wikipedia. I'm hoping to take you back to basics and will be focusing on images. However, a lot of the same concepts apply to other media files and even text too! I'll mention a bit more about that at the end of the lesson.

Glossary

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There are a lot of terms associated with copyright. If you are having trouble with any, here's a quick reference.

Term Explaination
Attribution The identification of work by an author
Copyright symbol © - used to show work is under copyright
Creative Commons Creative Commons is an organisation that provides licensing information aimed at achieving a mutual sharing and flexible approach to copyright.
Compilation A new work created as a combination of other works, which may be derivative works.
Derivative work A work which is derived from another work. (Eg a photograph of a painting)
Disclaimer A statement which limits rights or obligations
FACT Federation Against Copyright Theft
Fair use Circumstances where copyright can be waived. These are strict and specific to the country.
Copyright infringement Use of work under copyright without permission
Intellectual property Creations of the mind, under which you do have rights.
License The terms under which the copyright owner allows his/her work to be used.
Non-commercial Copying for personal use - not for the purpose of buying or selling.
Public domain Works that either cannot be copyrighted or the copyright has expired
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What you can upload to commons

Ok, now if I use a term that's not in the glossary and I don't explain, feel free to slap me. Are you ready for this? Ok. Take a deep breath. You can do it.

Copyright is a serious problem on a free encyclopedia. To remain free, any work that is submitted must be released under the WP:CC-BY-SA License and the WP:GFDL. You can read the actual text under those links, but the gist is that you agree that everything you write on the encyclopedia can be shared, adapted or even sold and all you get in return is attribution.

So, there are basically two types of images on wikipedia.

  1. Free images
  2. Non-free images

Free images are those which can be freely used anywhere on Wikipedia. A free image may be either public domain, or released under a free license, such as CC-BY-SA. Free images can be used in any article where their presence would add value. As long as there is a consensus among the editors working on an article that the image is appropriate for the article, it's safe to say that it can remain in an article. Free images can even be modified and used elsewhere.

Non-free images, however, are subject to restrictions. Album covers and TV screenshots are two types of images that are typically non-free. They may belong to a person or organization who has not agreed to release them freely to the public, and there may be restrictions on how they are used. You have to meet ALL of Wikipedia's strict conditions in order to use them. (Non free content criteria)

In practice, if it comes out of your head - is entirely your own work, you have the right to make that release. If you got it from somewhere else, you don't. That doesn't mean it can't be used though. You can in these situations

  • If the work has already been released under a compatible or less restrictive license.
  • If the work is in the "public domain" - Very old items, 150 years is a good benchmark
  • If the work is not free in certain circumstances (Non free content criteria summary below, but actually a lot more detailed)
  1. There must be no free equivalent
  2. We must ensure that the owner will not lose out by us using the work
  3. Use as little as possible (the smallest number of uses and the smallest part possible used)
  4. Must have been published elsewhere first
  5. Meets our general standards for content
  6. Meets our specific standards for that area
  7. Must be used. (we can't upload something under fair use and not use it)
  8. Must be useful in context. This is a sticking point, if it's not actually adding to the article, it shouldn't be used.
  9. Can only be used in article space
  10. The image page must attribute the source, explain the fair use for each article it is used and display the correct tag

It's a lot, isn't it! Well, let's have a look at the non free stuff. I'm going to suggest two different images. One, a tabloid picture of celebrity actress Nicole Kidman, and the other, the cover of the album Jollification by the Lightning Seeds. The tabloid picture of Nicole Kidman will instantly fail #1, because there can be a free equivalent - anyone can take a picture of Nicole. The album cover on the other hand is unique - there's no free equivalent. It's discussed in the article too, so showing it will be useful in context (#8). The copy we show should be shrunk, so that it can't be used to create pirate copies (#2). I couldn't put it on my userpage though (or even here) (#9)

Get it? Well here are a few more examples.

  • I could upload a publicity picture of Eddie Izzard. Now, the photographer holds the copyright to that particular picture of the hilarious person. I can claim fair use, but the claim would be invalid because you could just as easily go to a performance Izzard is giving and take a picture of her yourself. (That's what happened here) The publicity picture is considered replaceable fair use and so cannot be used on Wikipedia.
  • Person X could upload a picture of the Empire State Building from a marketing kit they distributed. This image would likely be copyrighted, and so they claim fair use. But I happen to have been to New York and have a picture of the ESB. I upload that instead and release it into the public domain. The first, copyrighted picture, is also replaceable, and therefore can't be used on Wikipedia.
  • For the article on the Monterey Bay Aquarium, I want to upload an image of their logo (visible in no great detail here). I go to their website, take a copy of their logo, and upload it to Wikipedia. This fair use is allowable, because no matter where or how they display their logo, it'll be under the same copyright. Since the simple art of scanning or taking a picture of a piece of work is not enough to justify my ownership of the rights to the image, there is no way to obtain a free version of the logo. So, if it meets all the other criteria as well, it can be used on Wikipedia.

Commons

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When people refer to Commons on Wikipedia, they're generally referring to Wikimedia Commons, a repository of free material. Images on Commons can be linked directly to Wikipedia, like that picture just to the right and above. Now, since commons is a free repository, fair use is not permitted. It makes sense to upload free images to commons, so that they can be used by all language encyclopedias.

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So you think you've got your head around copyright and how it applies to images? Well done. Let's see how it applies to text. All the principles are the same - you can only include text which has been released under CC-BY-SA. In fact, if you notice, every time you click edit, it says right there

Content that violates any copyrights will be deleted. Encyclopedic content must be verifiable.

By clicking the "Save Page" button, you agree to the Terms of Use, and you irrevocably agree to release your contribution under the CC-BY-SA 3.0 License and the GFDL. You agree that a hyperlink or URL is sufficient attribution under the Creative Commons license.

So you are in effect contributing every time you edit. Now, let's think about that non-free content criteria - "No free equivalent" means that you will never be able to license text under it (except for quoting) - as you can re-write it in your own words to create an equivalent. You always, always, always have to write things in your own words or make it VERY clear that you are not. Got it? Good.

Questions

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@MrBauer24: This is a pretty complex topic, is there anything you don't understand? Now's a great time to ask about those weird situations. ––FormalDude (talk) 00:40, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

@FormalDude: I am finding this one very complex. It is difficult because I am scared that I will make a mistake without knowing. It seems to be such a complex topic MrBauer24 (talk) 21:27, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
@MrBauer24: I can boil it down to two pretty simple things to keep in mind:
1. Wikimedia Commons (where images are hosted on Wikipedia) only accepts free content. That is, images and other media files that can be used by anyone, for any purpose. Traditional copyright law does not grant these freedoms, and unless noted otherwise, everything you find on the internet is copyrighted and not permitted there. If you aren't planning on uploading images, this won't really impact you.
2. Avoid plagiarism when writing content. Everything except direct quotes should be in your own words.
Hopefully that's less overwhelming. Is there anything specific you're still not sure about? ––FormalDude (talk) 21:31, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
@FormalDude: Thank you for the great reply, that really helps. I was wondering with images, how are images on articles such as this used Simon Cowell as that image of him is highly unlikely to have been taken by the person who uploaded it.
@MrBauer24: In that case the author posted the image to Flickr under a free license, which makes it okay for someone else to upload it to Commons. ––FormalDude (talk) 21:38, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
@FormalDude: Thank you very much, I am ready to move on now :) MrBauer24 (talk) 18:55, 14 March 2023 (UTC)