User:Figaro/Personal abuse archive
User:Nique1287
[edit]Removing information from your own talk page
[edit]I've noticed that you have a history of removing all discussions from your talk page. This is considered VERY bad form, as your talk page gives other editors an idea of your previous edit histories, and any patterns in your edits. Please, seriously reconsider removing the discussions, as it is very rude and it gives a false impression on anyone visiting the page. Thank you. Nique talk 17:48, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
RE: Archiving comments
[edit]If you are archiving comments to an archive page, standard practice is to archive them by date, and to link to the archives from your talk page. Unless you link to the archive page, it appears to any other editors as though you are simply deleting the talk page entries in question. And as I mentioned before, talk page entries give other editors a good idea of your past conduct, any patterns in your behaviour, and so on. From WP:TPG: Don't misrepresent other people: The record should accurately show significant exchanges that took place, and in the right context. Also, see WP:TPG#When pages get too long for more information about archiving. Thanks! Nique talk 20:31, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Your supposed archiving of your Talk page
[edit]User talk page entries should not be deleted haphazardly, and a link to any archive made should be kept on the Talk page in question. The history of your user talk page is useful for other editors. Your threat to take my actions to the admins is unjustified, as you are the one in the wrong here. Unless you are about to delete or rename your account, the deletion of user talk page entries is heavily frowned upon. Please reconsider your actions, and add the previous discussions back to this page, or a link to your alleged archive(s). Thank you. (And if you delete this, I will re-add it as many times as necessary until you do the correct thing, as per the reasons outlined above.) Nique talk 23:02, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
Regarding your decision regarding archiving
[edit]No, I will not be 'content' to wait to restore all this content, as it has been missing from this page for far too long already. I will restore it continually as I see it being removed, until you archive as per WP:ARCHIVE. None of this "categorizing", either: please just archive by date and link to those archives neatly, at the top of the page, as every other Wikipedian is required to do when they claim to be archiving material. If you have a problem with my restoring this information, as you seem to be quoting WP:3RR in your reply at the top of the page, then you can feel free to report me, if you honestly think that you won't be affected for your breach of etiquette in constantly removing any and all content from this page and not giving other editors easy access to it, as they would have if you would just archive by date, as per the above-quoted maintenance process.
In short (and my apologies if I seem rude, but this is BEYOND ridiculous at this point): Suck it up, archive like everyone else is supposed to, and stop accusing other users of harassing you when they are simply pointing you in the right direction with force directly proportional to your own resistance. And at this point, I'm even willing to devote the time out of my busy schedule to double-check that EVERY entry is included in those archives, because you seem VERY set on hiding something, though what you might be hiding other than your history of personal attacks and removal of content, I can't be sure. Nique talk 03:08, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
Regarding your claim to have contacted an administrator
[edit]About your entry on my talk page, my being female relates to you using the proper pronouns when referring to me. I don't like being referred to as male when I am clearly not. And I use the word supposed because you offer no proof of these supposed archives that you've been making only for your personal use. Why should I just take your word for it, when all I see here is your obsession with hiding your past discussions?
As for your comment above this entry on this page, if you're going to ask about archiving, I still highly recommend having all the entries ON the talk page the whole time, or at least give the administrator you claim to have contacted a link to one of the oldids where I have added all the previous comments, as well as point them at your comments on other user talk pages, such as mine, where you explain your reasoning ("too personal" for other editors to read? Give me a break. If it's that personal, it shouldn't be taking place on Wikipedia, but it should NOT be hidden.).
However, since you claim to be in contact with an administrator, I will give you a period of one week in which to have all content archived properly, by date, as per WP:ARCHIVE (which by the way, is where any administrator will probably direct you to for information about archiving talk pages). Also, as I said in another comment which you've archived only for your personal use if at all, my "harassment" is simply use of force DIRECTLY proportional to your resistance to follow a long-established, well-thought-out, and necessary cleanup process, WP:ARCHIVE, while actually letting other editors have access to reading those old entries, again as per WP:ARCHIVE. A note directly from WP:TPG that applies here as well: Don't misrepresent other people: The record should accurately show significant exchanges that took place, and in the right context.
And as I have said before, I will be checking to make sure that EVERY entry is in any archive(s) you do make within this week. I suggest that you make the archives promptly, as per (again, I apparently can't link to it enough to get it through your head to actually just read and use it instead of being ridiculous and claiming to contact an administrator about something so utterly simple) WP:ARCHIVE. I highly suggest that you do not remove this particular entry. Whether you leave it here as evidence of my supposed "harassment" of you, or whether you just leave it here as a favour to me for leaving you alone for the week, or some other option, I don't care, but at least give SOME evidence of what a ridiculously stubborn person you are, if you've driven someone like myself to THIS kind of idiocy. Nique talk 13:31, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
- Also, you say that I never requested that you archive properly, politely. I beg to differ. The following is the first comment I made about the issue:
I've noticed that you have a history of removing all discussions from your talk page. This is considered VERY bad form, as your talk page gives other editors an idea of your previous edit histories, and any patterns in your edits. Please, seriously reconsider removing the discussions, as it is very rude and it gives a false impression on anyone visiting the page. Thank you. Nique talk 17:48, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
- I'd hardly call that impolite, and it is a request to leave and/or (preferably) restore the content that you're trying so hard to hide. Just pointing it out because you said "Things would have gone a lot more smoothly if you had politely requested me to link to the archive pages from the talk page". Thanks again! Nique talk 13:45, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
- Honestly, going through all the comments previously made on this page, I can't see anything that's "too personal" for Wikipedia. You have a history of personal attacks against others, and a history of others noting that you were engaging in personal attacks against them and/or others, as well as a couple of edit wars, but I can see nothing there that can justly be omitted from archives. Please include all comments when you archive. Thanks. Nique talk 16:29, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
User:Greglocock
[edit]The Goodies Talk page
[edit]I notice with interest that you have again removed comments posted by myself on the talk page. This is in contravention of wiki etiquette. Your reasoning is spurious. Redeem yourself by reposting my remarks. You do not own a section merely because you started it, and your justification for removing them was fallacious, talk page comments do not have to be NPOV. Greglocock 21:14, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
The Goodies Talk page
[edit]I notice with interest that you have again removed comments posted by myself on the talk page. This is in contravention of wiki etiquette. Your reasoning is spurious. Redeem yourself by reposting my remarks. You do not own a section merely because you started it, and your justification for removing them was fallacious, talk page comments do not have to be NPOV. Greglocock 21:14, 1 February 2007 (UTC) ... and to state the bleeding obvious, I can play this game every day. I am being /very/ nice by asking you revert your own poor edits, rather than doing it myself. I think, given your incommunicado, yet active, status, perhaps one week is a reasonable timeframe? Enjoy. Greglocock 13:34, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
Goodies
[edit]A couple of weeks ago you removed some comments that I made on the goodies talk page, on the spurious grounds that they were POV. I asked that you replace them. You have not done so. If you do not do so before 23 feb I will advise the admins of what you have done. Do you understand this, and its likely consequences? Greglocock 01:22, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Your User page belongs to you. Your Talk page does not belong to you. It is supposed to be a record of your interactions with other users. An article's Talk page is a discussion by many users about a given article. It does not belong to any one person either. Now, you seem to misunderstand all this. Once you type something on a Talk page, you /do/ have the right to edit your own comments. You /do not/ generally (there are exceptions) have the right to edit or remove other people's comments on ANY Talk page, including the Talk page for your User page. Do you understand this?
- Therefore, specifically, you should not be 'archiving' your Talk page without giving a link to that archive, and you should not have removed my comments from the 'The Goodies' Talk page. Now instead of wasting everybody's time, why don't you do as you have been asked, and then get on with the far more interesting job of creating content? Greglocock 00:21, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
SOOKY SOOKY LA LA
[edit]Sorry mate, you fail the primary requirements here. We can trace everything you do. We can restore every single one of your edits. We can revert your every single contribution or deletion. You have come across two very polite people who have asked you to correct your own stupidity... but in the famous phrase YOU FAIL IT. So carry on, delete all you like. We'll sort you out. Shame really, you seem to be a useful contributor. Oh, I might not have as much spare time as you, but man, have I got enough time to do one thing well. and you are IT. Greglocock 11:07, 16 February 2007 (UTC)