User:Erp/Sandbox Hananu revolt map

Hananu Revolt

Northwest Syria (png)

Northwest Syria (svg)

First stab. Queries and notes:

• Is the extent correct or should it be larger or smaller?
• scale bar is wrong, ignore.
• I'm using SRTM 30 data (SRTM_GTOPO_u30_n040e020) as the background. I can get finer detailed background but it will require a bit of work.
• The background coloring is wikipedia standard
• I'm using slanted for geographic features (blue for river names) but may go for full fledged italic (different font)
• Largest font for Syria, next largest for Alexandretta Sanjak, I may go for bold for these
• are the towns/villages in the right locations?
• I'm still missing some geographic features from the original map

1. Jabal Barisha
2. Jabal Wastani
3. Jabal Duweili
4. Jabal al-Ala
5. Nahr al-Asi - well to be exact this is the Orontes River, do you have a preference on the river name?
6. Ebene von Chalkis - Plain of Chalkis presumably referring to the now gone Chalkis-on-Belus aka Qinnasrin on the Queiq River. Not sure what the English term would be.

Please feel free to add additional info below. Erp (talk) 16:39, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

• The map looks good. The extent should be smaller with pretty much everything east of Aleppo cut. The Turkish peninsula in the far western portion of the map and the sea south of it could also be cut. I want it be as zoomed in as possible on the activity areas of the revolt.
• Regarding Alexandretta Sanjak, the border between it and Syria should be dashed because it was still part of Syria until 1936. Instead, a solid white line should be drawn depicting the sanjak's northern border with Turkey. See File:Ethnic composition of Hatay (1936).jpg for reference (I'll try to find a better reference map if this one isn't suitable). The area of Turkey north of the Syrian border should be labeled as Anatolia (geographic region not a state).
• The detail might need to be a bit finer because it's kind of grainy, but this is not a major issue.
• Some minor adjustments should be made: Zanqufa is pretty much in the correct spot, but instead of it being immediately north of al-Haffah, it is immediately south of it.
• Jabal Sahyun is to the west of where it is currently labeled. It should replace the current Zanqufa label and be written horizontally. :*The missing Jabals (Barisha, Duweili, Wastani, al-Ala) don't have to be included on second thought because they are not mentioned in the article or in the sources I've been using. They'll probably just clutter the map. Same goes for the Plain of Chalkis, it doesn't have to be labeled.
• As for the Nahr al-Asi, it should continue to be labeled as "Orontes" since this is the much more recognizable term.
• And I made a typo earlier, Tell Ahmar should be spelled "Tell 'Amar". --Al Ameer (talk) 19:52, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

@Al Ameer son: Hmm, do you think you can correct the geo-coordinates in the articles for al-Haffah and Zanqufa. I suspect the original author rounded a bit too much with al-Haffah's coordinates (looking at Google Earth), not sure on Zanqufa; I've modified the former in the spreadsheet that I'm pulling into the mapping program. I've adjusted the map's extent. The border is a bit trickier (I'm pulling from a pre-existing source so I'll have to do some manual work). Should I label the Gulf (in which case modern name of Gulf of İskenderun or Issus or Alexandretta) and the Mediterranean? I'll look into pulling the finer detailed background. Erp (talk) 01:55, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

@Erp: I just adjusted the coords for al-Haffah, Zanqufa's coords are ok. Looking at the modified map now, you will not need to label Alexandretta's border with Turkey because that part of the map has been cut. The Mediterranean and the Gulf slipped my mind, but yes it would be good to label both. --Al Ameer (talk) 02:23, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Which name for the Gulf? Erp (talk) 02:28, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

"Gulf of Alexandretta" I suppose, just to be consistent. --Al Ameer (talk) 03:54, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Just noticed that's the name you used. I guess we thought alike. --Al Ameer (talk) 03:55, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

The definition also looks great. --Al Ameer (talk) 03:56, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

The map looks pretty much complete to me. You did a great job and in good time. There is one typo that I spotted: there should be a hyphen between "al" and "Shughur" as in "al-Shughur". --Al Ameer (talk) 22:43, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Ok something went odd on my last upload, the file size looks right for what should have been uploaded but it is showing the original file not the new file. I'll give it a bit of time and see if it fixes itself. In the meantime I've added an svg version of the file (svg files are easier to edit later if one doesn't have access to the full QGIS project or the time to learn to use QGIS [use a svg editor like Inkscape]). I tried adding an accurate scale bar but something keeps going wrong; you might want to add something in the caption to indicate distance. Erp (talk) 04:54, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

@Erp: Thank you very much for responding to the request so quickly. The map looks great. I just added the map to the article. I'm not sure what to do about denoting distance, but maybe that can be fixed in the future. I'm glad you've provided an .svg version because in the near future, when I gather more info about the revolt, I might need some changes to be made, namely the labeling of notable battles/military engagements between the rebels and the French instead of listing all of the villages mentioned in the article. --Al Ameer (talk) 19:59, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

@Al Ameer son: I've just uploaded the svg equivalent of the png file with a scale bar. You might want to double check that the scale bar makes sense. Don't forget to mark resolved on the map request page, if you are totally happy or we can keep it open while you are working on the article. Erp (talk) 02:45, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

The scale is correct as far as I can tell: Jableh is about 25km from Latakia and al-Haffah is about 35km from Latakia, which appears to match the scale. I will mark as resolved now. I have some modifications in mind, but I will request these at a later date. Thank you again. Regards, --Al Ameer (talk) 02:58, 24 November 2015 (UTC)