User:Deckiller/archive3

This is my third archive of discussions, starting on January 1, 2006 and ending on January 16, 2006. Enjoy.

A message

Anyone reading this talkpage because they want to leave a message or whatever....make sure to use the four tildes! You'll get this signature: Deckiller 20:19, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for the message on my talk page. It made my day :D. I'm hoping in the future to make it more comprehensive and cut down most of the fancruft stuff so stay tuned. -- Chanlord 00:24, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Xenogears

Seeing as a lot of the work in the Xenogears pages is still in progress, I thought I'd offer to write up a draft for the Miang page (also it seems the Kahran Ramsus page could use a major rewrite). If you need an example of my work, refer to the character bios at the Tekkaman Blade II page (though keep in mind that some Anonymous folks have been running around editing them lately, just view my original versions from the page history). If not, no problem - just wanted to see if you needed the help. :) 139.139.193.12 10:16, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Whoops. Forgot to log in. Anyway, that was me. TKarrde 10:17, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Miang

Hey, that would be awesome. I look forward to seeing the Miang page! Deckiller 12:25, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Gotcha. Look forward to it in about a week (two tops) - I'll start working up some drafts. Unfortunately until my personal computer gets fixed (probably two months) I won't be able to contribute any pics to the article, you might need to find those yourself. TKarrde 12:32, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

I just read the background section, it looks awesome! Deckiller 16:22, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Yeesh, that scared me. I was just clicking on your name to add a comment saying I'd posted a draft :P Any ideas as far as the other stuff goes? I don't know what plans you had for the format of the rest of the page - I'm assuming from the Disc One and Disc Two sections that you planned on explaining in detail her involvement plot-wise over those two discs, but that would also entail spelling out the entire plot, really.. I was thinking that a timeline of Miang Awakenings would be neat, from the original Kadomony being to the final reunited Elly-Miang being, with all the known incarnations in between (like the Miang twins from the Zeboim era). I can do that pretty much from memory, but like I mentioned before I don't have access to a personal puter at the moment so pictures will have to come from elsewho. :P TKarrde 16:25, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, a timeline of sorts would be awesome. As for the detailed analysis/plot summary, I'm torn on the issue, because some video game articles do and some don't. I might post something about it on the CVG project page to see what everyone thinks. Deckiller 16:28, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Well, see, my thinking is that game scripts already exist. Gotta keep in mind Wikipedia's purpose - it's a place to go to gain better understanding of something - not meant to be an entire substitution FOR that something :P That's just my opinion, anyway. In any case, something like that wouldn't belong in Miang's page, it'd belong in a general Xenogears page or a plot-related page, or maybe this CVG thing you're talking about (haven't checked that out yet). TKarrde 16:33, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

I posted a question on the WikiProject talk page; we might be able to get a better idea as to how to officially handle plot summary and all. I've seen so many different styles; FF8 doesn't really spoil anything, while the Sephiroth page spills the beans. Hopefully we'll get a true response. Deckiller 16:37, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Heya, I found a pretty good guideline that may help us out: Wikipedia:Notability (fiction). Deckiller 16:40, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Hmm.. Well, if you really feel like writing a plot summary for something as time-spanning as the Xenogears story, by all means, don't let me tie your hands :P I just don't think it would belong on the Miang page, that's all. :P Also, can I get a link to that wikiproject talk page you mentioned? TKarrde 16:44, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Wrote a quick draft of the timeline of known manifestations of Miang. I could've listed ALL her dealings with the plot but I didn't want to give it all away, though I probably did anyway, heh. You'll have to look into getting a pic fixed up soon, I'll add some info about her Gear later. Maybe this pic? http://xenogears.tautoz.com/pics/miang.jpg Kinda bland, I know, and probably copyrighted, but eh. If you can find a better one more power to ya. TKarrde 18:17, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Hello

Hey, I've noticed your edits on Tom Brady. I assume you're a Brady fan? That's cool. Hopefully, he'll win a fourth Super Bowl, although they will most likely have to play Indy again... I also noticed you enjoy listening to Rush. Me too! Just thought I'd drop a message and stay a while. :) Gflores ^Talk 02:13, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar

Thanks! I'll hang it on my barn! :P The Wookieepedian 22:08, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

ArbCom election

Thank you for you vote in the ArbCom elections. I see that you want to preserve a 'balance of power' on the committee and I hope you don't mind me asking you more about this view. Which particular balance are you thinking of? I would be very interested to know the answer, if you have the time. David | Talk 09:44, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Ah, I now see what you mean. Actually I accept your reasoning entirely, but come to exactly the opposite conclusion: there are too many editors more interested in the community aspects of Wikipedia than article writing, but ArbCom should be composed of those who really want to write articles. David | Talk 14:33, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

(Eventual reply) After thinking about it, I have decided to change my vote to support (see voting page for more details). :) Deckiller 16:38, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much, I am very grateful. David | Talk 16:40, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thank you for correcting that typo on my user page, Deck - it simply slipped away (irritating little things they are...) You're welcome to edit my page anytime you want - you've earned it! Again, thank you, and kisses! - Phædriel ♥ ^{tell me} 01:12, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Final Fantasy IX story

Erm... maybe not "obsolete," per se, but probably a little too finely grained for the purposes of Wikipedia. Generally, we shouldn't be doing more than providing a basic summary of the story, which should really be somewhere in the range of 5 paragraphs, at maximum. – Seancdaug 04:09, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Welll... back in August, I think, there was an attempt to get Final Fantasy VI elevated to featured article status. During that process, there was a great deal of concern that the story sections were far too detailed. Ultimately, the section got trimmed down to the two paragraphs currently on the page (with some crossover into the three-paragraph character section). Ultimately, there probably should not even be a seperate article for the story, and we probably shouldn't spend more than the aforementioned five paragraphs combined on both story and characters. The sort of detail in the current article is better suited for the Final Fantasy wiki, and you may want to consider transwikiing it there. – Seancdaug 03:51, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Krel/Ram

Hey, you may want to talk to ArcTheLad; he wrote the Ramsus and Krelian pages. Deckiller 16:44, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Righto, I'll get in touch with him. He'd be the first I'd suspect to have an objection to a rewrite of those pages, but I was also trying to get a feel for whether the community at large would want the changes I'm suggesting. Thanks again :) TKarrde 16:45, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Userbox

You're missing this userbox: User WPCVG

Welcome :D TKarrde 18:01, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for leaving the message on my talk page. I'm really interested in contributing to the Wikipedia:WikiProject_Final_Fantasy. I hope to be of some help! Thanks again! Spencer 18:30, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

re: New England Patriots

Sorry, when I looked at it quickly it looked like vandalism so I reverted. Jtkiefer^{T | C | @} ---- 04:45, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Talk: Xenogears lists/gears pages/cleanup

Add info on aforementioned characters' Gears, whether in the same page or as new pages in themselves. Hey, I just wanted to comment that a bunch of people agreed a while ago that they should be merged into lists (I even had to split playable gears into their own article because it was so long due to fancruft). But yeah, we need to expand some sections in a lot of the Xenogears lists. Deckiller 19:25, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Aye, point a few out to me and I'd be happy to help. I don't think the Gears from the Nortune Battling Arena are worth mentioning (there are so many and such little information on any of them save Argento and Regurus), and the Seraphs probably don't belong in a Gear listing, since they're not technically Gears (even if you do battle them in Gear-sized battles - note the absence of Gear-sized Chu-Chu in the Gear list). Ideally, pictures of every Gear mentioned would be included, even if small ones. Smaller-sized pictures should be head/mugshots. I've got half a mind to rewrite the entire list, due to poor grammar and spelling issues throughout (as well as some speculative info/fancruft that you mentioned), but I'm saving that for a day where I'm feeling really worker-bee-ish. TKarrde 20:02, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I've put off all the work on the Xenogears articles because I've been focusing on some of the Xenosaga ones, but now you're interested, we should be able to improve them. Deckiller 20:12, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

happy wikiday

You too, ^_^, hmmm now you've got me using that smilly heh. Griz 20:55, 16 January 2006 (UTC)