User:Connormah/Generals list

Portraits of retired (or deceased) four star generals

Any chance we could get portraits of USAF or US Army four star generals digitized? I inquired at multiple places about these and they directed my to the National Archives, saying that this is where all the military portraits go. I've got a list of some Generals with low-quality or non-existent portraits below:

Priority List

William V. McBride (color, hi-res 4 star portrait) George J. Eade (color, hi-res 4 star portrait) Maurice A. Preston (color, hi-res 4 star portrait) William E. DePuy (color, hi-res 4 star portrait) Louis T. Seith (color, hi-res 4 star portrait) George B. Simler (died before promotion, so we're looking for LGEN (or 3 star) portrait of him Billy M. Minter Wilbur Creech Thomas Patrick Gerrity Edwin R. Chess (was only a Major General, or two star general) William H. Blanchard Monroe W. Hatch Jr.

List

John W. Roberts William V. McBride (color, hi-res 4 star portrait) George J. Eade (color, hi-res 4 star portrait) Maurice A. Preston (color, hi-res 4 star portrait) William E. DePuy (color, hi-res 4 star portrait) Louis T. Seith (color, hi-res 4 star portrait) John W. Vogt, Jr. (larger version of File:General John William Vogt.jpg with citation details?) Benjamin W. Chidlaw Billy M. Minter Wilbur Creech John D. Lavelle possibly this one? James E. Hill Thomas Patrick Gerrity (not sure if there is anything, he died shortly after promotion, but I guess worth a check since we're doing this all now) William H. Blanchard Monroe W. Hatch Jr. Willard Warren Scott, Jr. Jack I. Gregory Bennie L. Davis Berton E. Spivy, Jr. Melvin Zais Donn A. Starry [1]? Ralph E. Haines, Jr. (looking for his VCSA portrait) Charles L. Bolte (VCSA) Michael Patrick Chamberlain Carns Henry Viccellio Jr. Robert L. Rutherford Bryce Poe II Joseph T. Palastra, Jr. Horace M. Wade James Ferguson (general) Frederic H. Smith, Jr. Raymond J. Reeves Kenneth B. Hobson Montgomery Meigs* Crosbie E. Saint James V. Hartinger William G. Moore Jr. (looking for a color, more full portrait) Louis L. Wilson Jr. (see Moore) George L. Butler Gary E. Luck Samuel W. Koster Alexander Haig Richard Hastings Ellis Howell M. Estes III Joseph W. Ashy Robert M. Shoemaker Robert T. Marsh John J. Hennessey Donald R. Keith Frederick F. Woerner, Jr. Volney F. Warner John C. Meyer Joseph J. Nazzaro Glenn K. Otis Robert Sennewald Paul F. Gorman William J. Livesey Bruce K Holloway (looking for a color version of the existing portrait) William W. Hartzog William F. Kernan Alton D. Slay' Thomas M. Ryan, Jr. Earl T. O'Loughlin Andrew P. Iosue Donald J. Kutyna James A. Hill John G. Lorber Lewis Blaine Hershey John H. Michaelis George V. Underwood, Jr. John P. McConnell Orval R. Cook (looking for color 4 star portrait) Tommy Franks James P. McCarthy Robert L. Rutherford Patrick K. Gamble Robert E. Huyser F. Michael Rogers John K. Cannon George B. Simler

Not expecting anyone to take this up, but a few (the bolded) would be nice if possible. Now I'm just realizing that some portraits I updated from defenseimagery.mil were portraits of the generals at lower ranks, so I'll have to go through that again. Thanks. Connormah (talk) 18:33, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Possibly in [2] or [3]? Not too sure. Connormah (talk) 20:24, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

We should have views of a number of these. I've been out of town and haven't been able to check up until now, and this week will still be busy as I'm not going to be near the stacks for most of the day. I should be able to go through at least the bolded ones by the end of next week. I'd recommend that you check to see if any of these images are not digitized in ARC already; if they are and are of low-quality, more than likely Dominic will be able to port the original TIFF, and if he doesn't have it the ARC Identifier will make my search for the most part instantaneous and all I would have to do is rescan the print. Check ARC at http://research.archives.gov/search if you haven't done so already. BcNARApix (talk) 18:25, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll have a look. Connormah (talk) 18:56, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

One other thing - what should I be typing into the search feature to bring up my desired results? I'd tried in the past, but to no avail, so I was just wondering. Also, I'd prefer the portraits of the generals to be ones with the four star insignia, but if none are available, it's okay. Thanks in advance. Connormah (talk) 23:17, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Unfortunetly, at least in my experience with ARC, unless you're intimately familiar with the system, using it can be extremely user-unfriendly. Beyond just typing in the gentlemens' names, I don't expect you to find much. Less than 1% of NARA's holdings are actually digitized, and ARC is even only 68% percent complete at the series description level, so there's quite a bit to be had offline that isn't even reference in that system. I just figured give it a shot to see if you can find one or two mainly because of my being scheduled working with the public this week so I wouldn't be able to get to it (i.e. I was trying to pass the buck a little :-) ) If you do find something however, even if there is no digital copy on ARC, let me know. I really feel ARC is more of a tool for NARA staff than for public researchers, just because we're more familiar with how the system works. BcNARApix (talk) 13:34, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Below is a list of (mainly USAF) generals with decent portaits, but not of 4-star insignia. Connormah (talk) 01:44, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Just went through the list of 4 star Army generals - there's a bit more, sorry. (you can take one year to finish this for all I care) – Connormah (talk) 18:55, 29 August 2011 (UTC)