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Most Holy Family Monastery is a non-profit sedevacantist organization run by Michael Dimond. The Roman Catholic Church opposes it and its positions. Roman Catholic laymen rebut their theological claims, point by point.[1] The diocese of Lincoln, Nebraska, condemns them as anti-Catholic.[2] The Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights commented on their January, 2009, pamphlet attacking Pope John Paul II as a heretic, chiefly ecumenicism.[3] The Catholic League is a lay organization, separate from the church, but endorsed by a number of American Archbisops. It describes its mission as advocacy, like the ADL or NAACP.[4]

History

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It was founded in 1967, in Berlin, New Jersey, by a self-proclaimed Benedictine monk named Joseph Natale (born 1933), originally as a community for handicapped men. Natale entered the Benedictine Archabbey in Latrobe, Pennsylvania, in 1960 as a lay postulant, but left less than a year later to start his own Holy Family Monastery. According to an archivist of the Saint Vincent Archabbey in Latrobe, Natale left before taking vows; he never actually became a Benedictine monk.[5]

Throughout the late 1960's and early 1970's, Natale denounced the Second Vatican Council and the New Mass, and by the mid-1970s the community had become separate from the Conciliar Church. By mid-1980s, there were ten monks in it, but by 1994 the number declined to three. Shortly after a conference in 1994, John Vennari left to work for Fr. Nicholas Gruner.

Natale died in 1995, and Michael (official name Frederick[6] Dimond, who joined at the age of 19 in 1992[7], was elected the Superior. Soon after, he relocated to Granger, New York (close to Fillmore, New York), where Natale owned 90+ acres of donated land [8] and intended to move to.

Natale himself was never a sedevacantist, although his successor Michael Dimond turned to that position in 1998 or 1999, after he expelled one of the members of MHFM, Richard Ibranyi, in 1997, for being a sedevacantist. Shortly after, Frederick's biological brother Peter Dimond (official name Robert[9]) joined the monastery. [10]

Influence

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Dimond advertises his website for a vast amount of keywords via Google Ads.[citation needed] There are not any other traditionalist groups that agree 100% with them. Formerly, Dimond supported Gerry Matatics when he held their positions.[11]

Positions on various issues

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Doctrinal

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  • The belief that holds that people can be saved in invincible ignorance of the Catholic religion is outright heresy, and Baptism of desire and Baptism of blood is heresy for those who have seen the evidence provided by them (Justification/Salvation by Desire alone is heresy),[12] See EENS
  • Justification cannot happen without Baptism of water.
  • It is heresy to claim that the Vatican II popes are not anti-popes after having seen the evidence of their numerous heresies.
  • Co-Redeemer (Co-Redemptrix) is not a fitting title for Our Lady,[13]

Moral

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  • Natural Family Planning is sinful birth control[14]
  • Homosexual orientation is a result of demonic takeover because of frequent mortal sins of impurity [15]
  • Rock music is inspired by the devil[16]
  • A Catholic should receive the sacraments of Confession and Eucharist from Byzantine priests or other priests who were validly ordained but is not imposing about their heresy of denying the EENS dogma and Sedevacantism.[17]
  • Habitual smoking is a sin [18]

Regarding modern Catholicism

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  • Communists and Freemasons infiltrated the Catholic Church to overthrow it. [19]
  • Siri Thesis [20]
  • John Paul II is The Antichrist,[21]
  • Post Vatican II hierarchy is the Whore of Babylon in the Apocalypse,[22]
  • Sedevacantism: The Vatican II popes are antipopes (From John XXIII to Benedict XVI) [23]
  • The New Mass is the Abomination of Desolation – and the First Four Vatican II Antipopes parallel the Four False High Priests at the time of the Abomination of Desolation in the Machabees,[24]
  • The Consecration of Russia as requested by Our Lady of Fatima has been already done by Pius XII, although not with all the bishops as was requested, and that the conversion of Russia means that it will be converted to a period of peace, not converted to Catholicism as commonly thought.[25]

Holocaust denial

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The MHFM criticizes Pope Benedict XVI's strong stance against Holocaust deniers and condemns Bernard Fellay for silencing denial among Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) members.[26]

Religious practices

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Because none of them were ever ordained, and they believe that the New Mass is invalid and a false worship, they receive the sacraments from a Byzantine rite Catholic Church that is in communion with Benedict XVI, in Rochester, New York, in layman's clothes in lieu of their Benedictine habits for this occasion. Peter Dimond wrote: "In receiving the sacraments from certain Byzantine priests for over the last decade – i.e. from priests who are not notorious or imposing about their heresies – I've received what I consider to be tremendous spiritual graces." [27][28]

Their daily prayer life includes praying the 15 decade Rosary and a few prayers to certain saints such as St. Benedict and St. Philomena.

Claims of miraculous experience

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  • According to Michael Cuneo, who researched the various traditional movements in the USA, Natale claimed that he had the gift of prophecy in these words:

Even before Vatican II was finished, I knew, and knew absolutely, that it was part of a Communist conspiracy to destroy the Church. The bishops at the council wanted to democratize Catholicism, they wanted an egalitarian theology, and most of them were secret communists and Masons. They knew exactly what they were doing. My community here was the first one in the United States to see the council for what it really was, and we rejected it completely.

Regardless of what you have been told, John Paul I did not die of natural causes. He was murdered. Shortly after his election I went into a kind of trance and was told that John Paul I would be murdered because he wanted to return the Church to its traditions. He was murdered by his own. The Communist infiltrators in the Vatican and the College of Cardinals, working together with the Masons, killed John Paul I. At the same time I also had a vision of John Paul II, and I was told that he would be the next pope and also that he would be an authentic pope, even though most of his actions would be controlled by Communist advisers and manipulators in the Vatican.

Five years [from 1994] is about all the time the world has left.

— [5]
  • A former member claimed that he heard angels singing when he joined the monastery.[29]
  • Michael Dimond claimed in an interview with George Noory that he was attacked numerous times physically by invisible demonic force, by:
Paralyzing, pushing, jamming, and attempting to crushing the head
Making frightening sounds of some growling of a dog in his room, and causing sound of huge crash from behind when there's nothing there.[30]

Criticisms

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Members

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Current Members

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  • Michael Dimond
  • Peter Dimond.
  • Sister Anne (One sister in a new convent)[32]

Former Members

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Recent defectors

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  • "Edmund" Eric Hoyle: The technical producer for the audio programs and English-to-Spanish translator.[33] He also moderated the Sedevacantism debate the Dimonds had with William Golle. After being persuaded that it is sinful to go to a Byzantine Mass in communion with the mainstream Catholic Church, he left on December 31, 2007, with two others. Then he sued Frederick (Michael) and Robert (Peter) Dimond.[34]
  • Joseph Myers: a Protestant convert who claimed to have heard angels sing when he arrived at the Most Holy Family Monastery.[35] He left together with Hoyle, although he regretted the choice.[36]

References

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  1. ^ Walsh, Patrick. "Most "Holy" Family Monastery…A doctrine of Ambiguity, Condemnations and Haste". In Today's Catholic World. Aran Islands, Ireland. Retrieved 2009-02-19. {{cite news}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)
  2. ^ "Anti-Catholicism". Catholic Diocese of Lincoln, Nebraska. Retrieved 2009-02-19. {{cite web}}: Cite has empty unknown parameters: |month= and |coauthors= (help)
  3. ^ "Miscellaneous". Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights. 1999. Retrieved 2009-02-19. {{cite web}}: Cite has empty unknown parameters: |month= and |coauthors= (help) New York, NY.
  4. ^ "About us". Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights. 2009?. Retrieved 2009-02-19. {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |year= (help); Cite has empty unknown parameters: |month= and |coauthors= (help)CS1 maint: year (link) New York, NY.
  5. ^ a b Cuneo, Michael. The Smoke of Satan. p.88
  6. ^ Hoyle vs. Dimond
  7. ^ Our Benedictine Community
  8. ^ Municipality of Town of Granger
  9. ^ Hoyle vs. Dimond
  10. ^ Richard Ibranyi: Why I Left Most Holy Family Monastery "On August 29, 1997, Michael expelled me from the monastery....A year or more after my departure, Michael changed his belief and held the sedevacante position."
  11. ^ http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/Gerry_Matatics.html "When Gerry held the true positions, we generously promoted his speaking engagements with a prominent link, even when he didn’t link to us. We wanted to help him out; we thought people could benefit from his talks. But we were sadly betrayed by his lack of integrity and compromising ways again and again."
  12. ^ The Dogma that there is No Salvation Outside the Catholic Church and without the Catholic Faith and refuting baptism of desire :Moreover, while any idea of baptism of desire is false, one must make a very important distinction between the version of baptism of desire held by certain saints (for unbaptized catechumens only) and the version held by most today (which will be covered in more detail later in the book). The saints who held baptism of desire only applied it to unbaptized catechumens who believed in the Trinity, the Incarnation and the Catholic Faith. Almost all who believe in it today apply it to those who don’t even believe in Christ and/or are members of false religions. Those who believe in this latter idea (that baptism of desire can apply to Jews or Muslims, etc.) would have to immediately abandon it upon seeing any of the infallible definitions on Outside the Church There is No Salvation. If not, they are definitely heretics who have been automatically excommunicated from the Church. One could not reasonably believe that members of non-Catholic religions being saved is compatible with Outside the Church There is No Salvation. :On the other hand, since the false idea that unbaptized catechumens can be saved was held by certain saints and taught in the fallibly capacity of other texts, those who hold baptism of desire as those certain saints did (i.e., for unbaptized catechumens only) would have more room for erring in good faith (reasonably thinking for a time that it was the traditional teaching of the Church) until all the aspects of the issue were presented to them.
  13. ^ http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/defending_devotion_to_Our_Lady.html
  14. ^ http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/42_NFP.pdf
  15. ^ [http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/does_God_create_homosexuals.php Does God make homosexuals?]
  16. ^ Watch Our Videos: Abortion, Rock Music and Freemasonry Exposed
  17. ^ Where to go to a Catholic Mass or confession today?
  18. ^ E-exchanges "We don’t know if smoking in very small amounts once in a while is a sin. But we believe that smoking habitually or regularly is a sin, and it definitely cuts out graces from people’s lives. We don’t see how those who smoke habitually, for example throughout the day, would be any different from people who eat candy all day and thus try to constantly gratify themselves in that way. This is not even to get into the issue that we know it’s horrible for health and leads to death."
  19. ^ The Catholic Church's enemies, Communists and Freemasons, made an organized effort to infiltrate her "It’s a well known fact that Communists and Freemasons made organized efforts to infiltrate the Catholic Church. They sent large numbers of their own men into the priesthood hoping to weaken and attack her by moving these men to high positions."
  20. ^ http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/siri_election.html The Cardinal Siri Elections in Brief – relating to the Papal Conclaves and the Invalid Elections of John XXIII [1958] and Paul VI [1963]
  21. ^ John Paul II preached the Gospel of the Antichrist: that every man is God http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/watch_our_videos_3.php
  22. ^ http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/44_wobab.pdf
  23. ^ http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/#sedevacantism
  24. ^ http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/44_wobab.pdf
  25. ^ The Whole Truth about the Consecration and Conversion of Russia and the impostor Sr. Lucy
  26. ^ The Holocaust. "The propaganda hoax which has been so effectively used to cement Jewish power and influence in the world, and to silence any questioning of Jewish activities, support for Israel or a Jewish agenda". "According to Antipope Benedict XVI, the Jewish version of the Holocaust cannot be denied, but Protestants don’t have to accept Vatican I or the Council of Trent; and Jews don’t have to accept Jesus Christ. That’s quite revealing. Benedict XVI has strong words for "Holocaust" denial, but does nothing about pro-abortion "Catholic" figures who promote abortion and contraception or other forms of immorality." "...the heretical leadership of the SSPX is so ashamed of offending the Jews that they feel obliged to silence a bishop of their society for simply expressing his opinion on the matter. Think about this! In so doing, they have essentially elevated belief in the Jewish version of the Holocaust to the status of a dogma which one cannot question."
  27. ^ http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/receiving_sacraments_in_these_difficult_times.html
  28. ^ http://www.TheCatholicFaith.us/Council_Of_Basel_Dogmatic_Decree_Against_Notorious_Non-Catholics.htm
  29. ^ From wayback machine, radio programs page "Audio interview with Joseph Myers.... After receiving our material recently, Joseph converted to the traditional Catholic faith and joined Most Holy Family Monastery.... Among other things, Joseph talks about the change in his life, coming out of a spiritual fog, the power of the Rosary, hearing angels sing the first day he arrived here, etc."
  30. ^ Time 4:44 of Part 3 of Interview on UFOs & Demonic Activity with George Noory
  31. ^ Dimonds deny EENS
  32. ^ Christmas Donation Appealing Letter "We recently started a house for religious sisters next to the monastery. This is a building with living quarterssimilar to the living quarters in which the brothers live. Currently there is a sister living in this house for religious sisters. She’s handling the majority of our phone calls, so that we can work on new projects."
  33. ^ Some of the articles of MHFM translated into Spanish with the words, "traducido por [translated by Hno. Edmund Hoyle O.S.B.", although it is deleted now.]
  34. ^ Hoyle vs. Dimond
  35. ^ From wayback machine, radio programs page "Audio interview with Joseph Myers.... After receiving our material recently, Joseph converted to the traditional Catholic faith and joined Most Holy Family Monastery.... Among other things, Joseph talks about the change in his life, coming out of a spiritual fog, the power of the Rosary, hearing angels sing the first day he arrived here, etc."
  36. ^ Our Lawsuit – MHFM"Joseph acknowledges his poor choice, and gives more facts on the case."

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