User:Chzz/help/archtalk
Marking a talk-page discussion as archived
Sometimes, discussions can get very long, and it gets very difficult to see what is happening. In such cases, it may be helpful to mark the old debates as 'archived', and to try and summarize the lengthy discussions. This must be done with care, to ensure that the summary is neutral and that all views are fairly represented.
When a debate is having trouble reaching a WP:CONSENSUS, it can often help to ask others to contribute - by asking previous contributors to the article (shown in the history), by asking on the talk page of associated project groups, or via Wikipedia:Third opinion.
Done correctly, in good faith, archiving the lengthy discussions and summarizing the outstanding key points can help to clarify the situation.
In this example talk page, there has been a lengthy discussion about the shape of sausages.
It has been marked as archived by adding this text to the top of the section " Argument about sausages "...
{{Discussion top|1=Closed, as some issues resolved, some are outstanding but will be discussed in a new section}}
...and this to the end...
{{Discussion bottom}}
Example
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Sample thread
[edit]Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum.
Chzz ► 04:37, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
Argument about sausages
[edit]- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
- Closed, as some issues resolved, some are outstanding but will be discussed in a new section
Sausages are clearly tubular. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 127.0.0.1 (talk • contribs) 11:01, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
- No, they're not! Example (talk) 11:10, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
- Oh yes, they are — Preceding unsigned comment added by 127.0.0.1 (talk • contribs) 11:21, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
(long discussion here)
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Proin nonummy, lacus eget pulvinar lacinia, pede felis dignissim leo, vitae tristique magna lacus sit amet eros. Nullam ornare. Praesent odio ligula, dapibus sed, tincidunt eget, dictum ac, nibh. Nam quis lacus. Nunc eleifend molestie velit. Morbi lobortis quam eu velit. Donec euismod vestibulum massa. Donec non lectus. Aliquam commodo lacus sit amet nulla. Cras dignissim elit et augue. Nullam non diam. Pellentesque habitant morbi tristique senectus et netus et malesuada fames ac turpis egestas. In hac habitasse platea dictumst. Aenean vestibulum. Sed lobortis elit quis lectus. Nunc sed lacus at augue bibendum dapibus.
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[edit]Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum.
Chzz ► 04:37, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
...Then, at the end of the page...
Sausage debate, October
[edit]Summary of problems;
- I think XXXX is wrong because of WP:something. Chzz ► 04:37, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
...etc...