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Explanation
[edit]It is reasonable to expect that Template:Latter-day Saints would contain links to all of the core articles for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church), given the nature of that template. A somewhat new editor used a subset of the articles listed there to create Book:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, but in an effort to keep that book small, only included approximately half of the total number. Criteria for which to exclude has not been established, other than personal judgement. A small number of articles not found on Template:Latter-day Saints had also been added to that book. This brings up a number of interrelated questions:
- If these articles are not needed in a limited length book about the LDS Church, should they still be included on Template:Latter-day Saints?
- If so, is it reasonable to consider some of these articles excluded from Book:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints but on the template to be core topics? If so, which ones?
- If they are indeed core topics identified this way, should they be added to Book:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?
- If articles not found on Template:Latter-day Saints are necessary for inclusion in a restricted length book about the LDS Church, should they be considered for inclusion on Template:Latter-day Saints?
- If they are added to Template:Latter-day Saints, would they qualify to be added to a core topics list? If so, which ones?
- Regardless of how an article came to be included on included on Book:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, are there any articles there that are not enough of a core topic to merit being removed from there? If so, which ones?
- Regardless of how an article came to be excluded from Book:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, are there core topic articles that are missing, and should be added?
This seems to necessitate some detailed analysis of each item. In order to assist with answering these questions, I'm also comparing Template:Latter-day Saints and Book:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints with an alternate list of articles that I proposed at Book talk:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints on 2/10. I readily concede that my list was rough, and that I added items to my list based on my own personal knowledge and preferences.
Additionally I have found Book:LDS Church, which appears to be a less useful duplicate attempt at Book:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The analysis should hopefully help make it clear what useful contents are in it, and if not found useful enough to be merged into Book:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, help determine if it is appropriate to remove if from the community supported book namespace (either by userfying, or simply deleting).
After some back-and-forth discussions at Talk:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, I realised that objective criteria are needed in order to identify core topics both for inclusion in Template:Latter-day Saints and Book:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. This page is an attempt to at researching what that criteria might be. In the case that I cannot elucidate a concise and coherent set of criteria based on this analysis, I have as a secondary goal, to provide the community with a useful starting point for discussions about identifying the core topic articles for describing the LDS Church. This will then naturally feed what is included on Template:Latter-day Saints and Book:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Initial objectives
[edit]I will be evaluating:
- how closely Book:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (created 2014-12-26) matches Template:Latter-day Saints
- how closely alternate lists on Book talk:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints matches Template:Latter-day Saints
- how closely Book:LDS Church (created 2014-08-02), a pre-existing alternative, matches Template:Latter-day Saints
By combining these these four separate sources into a common table, I hope to make obvious the commonalities and differences.
Individual lists from resources
[edit]Template:Latter-day Saints
[edit]Book:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
[edit]Added 2/11
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Based on this dif, the following were added on 2/11 (this list is small enough that I have simply listed this in alpabetical order):
A link to Priesthood (LDS Church) was also changed to Priesthood (Latter Day Saints) on this date. |
Alternate lists from Book talk:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
[edit]Book:LDS Church
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Combined
[edit]Table
[edit]Notes
- ^ Understanding Help:Sorting#Secondary key is particularly useful for this table, so sorting can be used to separate out various relationships between values in different columns. A browser refresh on this page will reset the table: on a Windows PC, using IE, Firefox or Chrome, using the F5 key is an easy way to refresh the page, resetting the sort order.
- ^ a b c d e f 2/11 - added to Book:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
- ^ Plurality of gods (used on Template:Latter-day Saints) redirects to God in Mormonism
- ^ Godhead (Latter Day Saints), used on Template:Latter-day Saints, redirects to God in Mormonism
- ^ Suppressed so I don't have to renumber
- ^ Has a redirect from Humanitarian Services, which is used in Template:Latter-day Saints
- ^ a b 2/11 - Priesthood (LDS Church) replaced with Priesthood (Latter Day Saints) on Book:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
- ^ Removed The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints#Organization and structure, and am just counting this as another instance of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
Differences
[edit]Exclusions
[edit]Items found on Template:Latter-day Saints, but excluded at another location
Extra inclusions
[edit]Items not found on Template:Latter-day Saints, but found on the other locations
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
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Exclusivities
[edit]Articles found on only one of the resources
Book:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
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Everything on Book:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is also found on at least one of the other resources. |
Commonalities
[edit]All
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The following is common to all 4 resources evaluated:
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Analysis
[edit]If I were to redo the list I created, I would not include the following individual articles that are primarily about LDS Church history:
- <>
This is because they are adequately summarized by History of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, History of the Latter Day Saint movement, History of Utah, and Mormonism and polygamy.
For that same reason I would exclude from any core topics list the following articles that were included in one of the other sources:
- <>
They are likely core articles in more narrowly defined subtopics, such as History of the LDS Church, Mormonism and Polygamy, <> ... but those should be found on separate templates and books which are specific to those subtopics, and not on Template:Latter-day Saints & Book:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.