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Filipović, Gordana (1989). Kosovo--past and present. Review of International Affairs. p. 222. The Cominform emigres from Kosovo soon formed a nucleus in Albania which operated against Yugoslavia, using various means and methods; they caused disturbances in ... The Albanian intelligence service (Sigurimi) used them for illegal infiltration into Kosovo

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Skanderbeg's name

insisting only on "names only in Turkish and Latin" because it is allowed to use (a kind of) primary sources only on Albanian or Turkish language (I will not discuss neutrality of this sources (yet)) "primary Albanian/Turskish sources, i.e. from 16th to 18th century" - insisted by Sulmues when he deleted Skanderbeg name on Serbian
that I should prove that "name used in Serbian historiography was one of the predominant names used in international historiography" (ZjariRretues)
"In the lede we should enter the name only if there are historical primary sources" (Sulmues)
"article, poem, book.." is not suitable source (ZjariRretues)
"list of names would be too long" (ZjariRretues) if I include his name on Serbian language, but it is not too long for other languages, like i.e. Turkish
"but please make sure that they all are contemporary" (Sulmues)
use only those characters that are used in “preponderant primary sources” (Sulmues)
(associated with Albania and Albanians) (Resnjari)
(read the whole article) (Resnjari)


Num	Argument	Wikipedia policy in which is argument grounded	Albanian langauge	Serbian language	Greek language
1	Argument: "names only in Turkish and Latin" because it is only allowed to use (a kind of) "primary Albanian/Turskish sources, i.e. from 16th to 18th century" - Sulmues Counterargument - The same kind of argument can be invented for Serbian cyrillic and Greek script. False discriminatory argument, not grounded in wikipedia policies.	No	Yes	Yes	Yes
2	Argument: "predominant names used in international historiography" - ZjariRretues Counterargument - none of three language names are "predominant names used in international historiography". False argument, not grounded in wikipedia policies.	No	No	No	No
3	Argument: only per "historical primary sources" (Sulmues) Counterargument - if this rationale is used, only Serbian and Greek langauge names can be found in "historical primary sources".	Yes/No	No	Yes	Yes
4	"article, poem, book.." is not suitable source (ZjariRretues)	No	No	No	No
5	"list of names would be too long" (ZjariRretues)	Yes	No	No	No
6	"but please make sure that they all are contemporary" (Sulmues)	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes
7	use only those characters that are used in “preponderant primary sources” (Sulmues)	No	No	No	No
8	(associated with Albania and Albanians) (Resnjari)	No	Yes	Yes	Yes
9	(read the whole article) (Resnjari)	No	Yes	Yes	Yes

List of wikipedia policies that deal with alternative names in the first sentence of the lede: