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"Discuss first"

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The alpha-editor in its natural habitat follows two policies:

The last edit summary (aka having the last word) inevitably will be "discuss first".


Although some prefer welcoming newcomers with cookies, I find fruit to be a healthier alternative.

Hello, AlhyarJy, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like this place and decide to stay.



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See how to create your first article, then use the Article Wizard to create one, and add references to the article as explained below.
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==References==
{{Reflist}}
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Malay people

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Information icon Hello, I'm Native99girl. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Malay people have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Teahouse or the Help desk. You may share your opinion in regards to your edits in the article's Talk page. Native99girl (talk) 11:09, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lampung sockmaster

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Hi, here's more pages to watch: Lampung, Lampung people, Spread of Islam, Liwa, Indonesia. This guy is heavily promoting the dynasty of his local aristocracy and claiming that they were important figures in the history of Indonesia and the Islamization of the Archipelago. Austronesier (talk) 21:11, 27 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

PS: and, well, there's no copyright on my "Discuss first" satire, so nice to see you like it. –Austronesier (talk) 21:13, 27 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If you see clowns adding rubbish like this[1], please also post them a warning so we can eventually have them blocked if they continue. Do you use WP:Twinkle? –Austronesier (talk) 22:02, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

November 2022

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Information icon Welcome to Wikipedia. Editors are expected to treat each other with respect and civility. On this encyclopedia project, editors assume good faith while interacting with other editors, which you did not appear to do at Indonesia. Here is Wikipedia's welcome page, and it is hoped that you will assume the good faith of other editors and continue to help us improve Wikipedia! What "edit-warring" is this[2] edit summary referring to? It was a first bold (and admittedly not very fortunate) edit, and you did the first revert. Also, can you kindly specify the sockmaster which you claim to have spotted here[3]? Austronesier (talk) 17:23, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[4], [5], [6], [7], [8] you're welcome :) AlhyarJy (talk) 17:59, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, that's beyond even your level of persistence :) Although the last diff is unrelated to the rest. –Austronesier (talk) 18:59, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Socks again

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Help me out: who's the sockmaster behind this one[9]? I'm familiar with the Malaysian food warriors, but this one looks not immediately familiar to me.

And talking about socks: I'm pretty sure that the weird rewrite of Ethnic groups in Indonesia is the work of a sock. Excessive use of native scripts, citing Zoetmulder's Old Javanese dictionary in a section about Chinese Indonesians[10], talking about "official" classifications ...all this looks very familiar and bears the handwriting of @Eiskrahablo, no?. Austronesier (talk) 17:31, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

June 2023

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Information icon Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but you recently removed maintenance templates from Robert Budi Hartono. When removing maintenance templates, please be sure to either resolve the problem that the template refers to, or give a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Please see Help:Maintenance template removal for further information on when maintenance templates should or should not be removed. If this was a mistake, don't worry, as your removal of this template has been reverted. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. Thank you. Cordless Larry (talk) 19:52, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Information icon Please do not remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Robert Budi Hartono, without resolving the problem that the template refers to, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your removal of this template does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Thank you. Cordless Larry (talk) 19:57, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Information icon Please remember to assume good faith when dealing with other editors. Before you label edits that you disagree with as "vandalism", I strongly advise you to read WP:NOTVANDAL. You're absolutely entitled to revert edits that you consider problematic (but not by resorting to edit warring), but never ever call good-faith edits (especially if they are explained by the other editor) "vandalism". Austronesier (talk) 19:01, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents discussion

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Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is AlhyarJy and maintenance templates. Thank you. Cordless Larry (talk) 16:47, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hi AlhyarJy, you were given a last chance to respond on the ANI. You didn't. You might not be active editing. But we cannot be tracking your response sine die. So your account has been blocked indefinitely until you respond here that you understand the issue and will not repeat it again. Once you do that, you account may be unblocked (with some conditions, if required). Thanks, Lourdes 06:27, 11 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

June 2023

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Stop icon
You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for persistently making disruptive edits.
If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text at the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Lourdes 06:25, 11 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]