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RfC notification

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A request for comments which may impact this template has been started at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biographies#RfC on style in royal family templates. You are welcome to comment there. Fram (talk) 14:32, 31 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Edit war re use of sidebar template

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There appears to be an edit war in progress regarding (among other things) whether or not to use the {{sidebar}} template for this template. Please stop edit-warring and discuss it. --David Biddulph (talk) 06:23, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If this continues some degree of page protection might be in order. Now that it's brought up, though, I find that sidebars are poorly suited for biographical articles, where the upper right corner is likely to be occupied by (often lengthy) infoboxes. I think making it collapsible, or perhaps more radically, converting to the navbox format, should be considered. --Paul_012 (talk) 12:06, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sineenat's position

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@แอนเดอร์สัน: Although I'm not know well of Thai , Youtube have many thai royal activity videos . Sineenat's status seemed below princess , but videos haven't clearly shown that her status below PloypailinJensen / SirikitiyaJensen / Dhasanawalaya .

Chaokhunphra is a thai royal ranks and title , Sineenat is the only one woman to hold the title of a royal concubine at present .

Thanphuying is a thai honorific title , more than 50 womans has hold this title at present .

--Earthquake63589 (talk) 06:13 , 10 January 2022 (UTC)


Ploypailin, Sirikitiya and Dhasanawalaya was royal descendants from her mother side, but Chao Khun Phra is a commoner married to king, not princess consort. --แอนเดอร์สัน (talk) 16:50, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


English Definition
Family means a group of persons united by the ties of marriage , blood , or adoption . [1]
Family means a basic social unit consisting of parents and their children , considered as a group .[2]
Whether dwelling together or not , the family group should be distinguished from a household , which may include boarders and roomers sharing a common residence .
In modern times , the word "Mistress" is used primarily to refer to the female lover of a man who is married to another woman ; in the case of an unmarried man , it is usual to speak of a "girlfriend" or "partner"
Concubinage also is inclined to reinforce class hierar- chies because it pairs women of lower rank with men of higher rank . concubines stood above slaves and paid servants but below the legal wife ( in cases of plural concubinage ) .
Exception of concubinage as an alternative marriage , the concubinatory rather than marital nature of these relationships , outside of their existing formal marriages. [3]
A spouse , concubine or companion , in particular the spouse of a reigning monarch . Consort means a wife or husband , especially of a ruler .
Refer to this definition , if the king Vajiralongkorn married to Sineenat , she is a member of Thai royal family , whether commoner or royal descendant . Just like the queen Suthida who listed in Thai royal family of wikipedia template .
--Earthquake63589 (talk) 04:33 , 12 January 2022 (UTC)


@แอนเดอร์สัน: I think Sineenat's status or royal ranks also an important consideration , because wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information .
--Earthquake63589 (talk) 04:33 , 12 January 2022 (UTC)


While outside of their existing formal marriages , Sineenat as a couple with the king Vajiralongkorn [4][5] . She was often allowed to participate royal activities , and closest to other family members [6][7][8] .
--Earthquake63589 (talk) 11:46 , 17 January 2022 (UTC)


Dictionaries only reflect the basic meanings , a common family would not take concubinage in modern society .
--Earthquake63589 (talk) 17:25 , 18 January 2022 (UTC)


English Definition
The word adopt has two definitions , both related to choosing or accepting something . [9]
The most common use of the word is the meaning of taking in a child (a child from another family , or a child who has no family) and raising it as one's own . Children who are taken in by families in this way are said to have been adopted .
e.g. It is also possible to adopt a pet .
As noted above , if the king Vajiralongkorn adopted to Sineenat , she is a member of Thai royal family . But it should depending on Sineenat's status who listed in Thai royal family of wikipedia template .
--Earthquake63589 (talk) 04:14 , 19 January 2022 (UTC)