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Change cladus to superclasssis. Reference: NCBI The All Knowing Frog (talk) 14:30, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Completed. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^put'r there 14:57, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Paine Ellsworth this change has caused an issue. Tetrapoda has this has a parent (several levels up) but is also ranked as a superclass. Suggest a revert and a discussion. YorkshireExpat (talk) 21:31, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Be glad to... Sarcopterygii is rated at Superclass by NCBI and I also found it rated the same at ITIS. Will raise the discussion at WT:WikiProject Tree of Life#Sarcopterygii to garner more attention. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^put'r there 02:56, 30 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fishes of the World (5th edition) is the "preferred" source for the higher level taxonomy (see WP:FISH#Taxonomy) and that uses subclass Sarcopterygii.^[1] We may need to be flexible and use clade or unranked to accommodate some other heirarchies, but we shouldn't used superclass based on what I would consider less authoritative sources (NCBI, ITIS).

However, Deepfin also uses superclass,^[2]^[3] but if we use that we should discuss making Deepfin the preferred source for higher level taxonomy instead of FotW5. This change has been suggested before but I don't think the discussion was had. If the change is made, we would need to consider variant taxonomy templates for different cases (e.g. when using superclass Tetrapoda)

I've also made this comment at WT:TOL#Sarcopterygii, which is where we should continue the discussion. — Jts1882 | talk 11:04, 30 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ J. S. Nelson; T. C. Grande; M. V. H. Wilson (2016). Fishes of the World (5th ed.). Wiley. p. 752. ISBN 978-1-118-34233-6.
^ Ricardo Betancur-R; Edward O. Wiley; Gloria Arratia; Arturo Acero; Nicolas Bailly; Masaki Miya; Guillaume Lecointre; Guillermo Ortí (2017). "Phylogenetic classification of bony fishes". BMC Evolutionary Biology. 17 (1): 162. Bibcode:2017BMCEE..17..162B. doi:10.1186/s12862-017-0958-3. PMC 5501477. PMID 28683774.
^ "Phylogeny of all Fishes". deepfin.org. 4. Retrieved 17 May 2018.

[NGW-2016-1] J. S. Nelson; T. C. Grande; M. V. H. Wilson (2016). Fishes of the World (5th ed.). Wiley. p. 752. ISBN 978-1-118-34233-6.

[Betancur-R-2017-2] Ricardo Betancur-R; Edward O. Wiley; Gloria Arratia; Arturo Acero; Nicolas Bailly; Masaki Miya; Guillaume Lecointre; Guillermo Ortí (2017). "Phylogenetic classification of bony fishes". BMC Evolutionary Biology. 17 (1): 162. Bibcode:2017BMCEE..17..162B. doi:10.1186/s12862-017-0958-3. PMC 5501477. PMID 28683774.

[Deepfin4-update-3] "Phylogeny of all Fishes". deepfin.org. 4. Retrieved 17 May 2018.

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