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Template-protected edit request on 29 March 2024

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Please change Lowercase sigmabot III to lowercase sigmabot III (changing the uppercase L to a lowercase l). As the name suggests, the bot's name is stylized with in all lowercase (see, e.g. User:lowercase sigmabot III which uses the template {{lowercase}}. Thanks! House Blaster (talk · he/him) 17:46, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@HouseBlaster: I'm declining this unless the current name is causing any issues (in which case, please provide an example) or is requested by the bot's (seemingly inactive) operator. Note that "Lowercase sigmabot III" is how the username appears in edit history and in the title of the bot's user page (i.e., there is no WP:DISPLAYTITLE). SilverLocust 💬 18:57, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@SilverLocust: there is actually a WP:DISPLAYTITLE on the bot's userpage: {{lowercase}} is a wrapper for DISPLAYTITLE (which automatically downcases the first letter; it is used on pages like eBay and iPhone). It was placed there by the bot operator in the first revision of the userpage. House Blaster (talk · he/him) 19:30, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I see. The title shown on mobile (which I was using) is "Lowercase sigmabot III"; I didn't check the source. Still, this is not broken as is, and this is the username seen in the edit history when the bot archives a page. SilverLocust 💬 21:56, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Possible simplifying enhancement regarding reader-friendly age param units to keep in mind

Just leaving this out here, for possible future simplifying code adjustment at some point in the future, which is however not obligatory, so this can also just be ignored. Here's the story:

At a point after this subtemplate was first implemented, some additions were made to it to provide a simple version of reader-friendly units, so that Cluebot hour-denominated age (it only accepts hours) could be displayed as, say, "90 days" in the bot notice, rather than as "2160 hours", which would be how it is coded in the Cluebot config. Subsequent to this, Tollens created template {{Human readable duration}} to allow template {{Talk header}} to emit friendly units, and this is now live at {{Talk header}}. (It would be useful at template {{Archives}}, as well.)

This means that the simple, reader-friendly units code in this subtemplate is halfway obsolete (half, because it is also used by {{Archives}}), as {{Talk header}} now incorporates the much more robust design of {{Human readable duration}}, and the simple version here is no longer needed for that template. If and when {{Archives}} also incorporates template {{Human readable duration}}, that will mean that a simplifying enhancement of the subtemplate becomes doable, by removing the simple reader-friendly units code, and let Hrd take care of it. We are now halfway there.

Even at that point, there will be no obligation to remove the code, as it plays nice with Hrd, but to the extent that simpler code that accomplishes the desired end is better code imho, I would support removing it at some future lull, if and when there is an appetite to do so. Mathglot (talk) 08:16, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]