Template talk:Signpost series

Bug?

The plainlinks appear to be going to a sandbox right now instead of the desired page/template (via Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2015-08-05/News and notes) – czar 07:58, 13 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Czar: That's the intended behavior: the engine generates an intermediary page which lists articles to which the tag is applied. That'll happen even if there's only one article tagged that way. As per ths link: visualeditor. In case there's a bug, here is the intended output. What do you get? ResMar 14:50, 13 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, okay. I don't think users will necessarily know that they have to preview the page in order to see the results. I can't say I know of another template that expects that. Wouldn't it make more sense to have a bot or something periodically update a static page based on the same categories? (Didn't get the ping, btw.) – czar 16:03, 13 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Czar: What you are saying sounds strange to me because the page is supposed to preview itself when you load it. You don't have to do it yourself, the computer should automatically do it for you. As for the ping, pings don't go through if a fresh signature isn't inserted at the end of the line, I probably forgot to do so (old habits die hard). ResMar 19:11, 13 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

All of my pages are set to autopreview (with the edit box on top), so I didn't know about this page's specific defaults. Anyway, just wanted to drop a note that it was confusing to click on the link and get Wikipedia:Sandbox instead of a dedicated page, and that I imagine others will have a similar experience. Cool feature, though. – czar 19:24, 13 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Czar: We need a way of dealing with the page being saved, accidentally or experimentally, by the user. Dropping it in the sandbox solves that problem because there's bots that come in and clean that sandbox regularly—no accumulated gunk. If we had one of the bots extend to a Signpost page—possible—we could fine-tune this a little more, perhaps. Since the system isn't finished yet as it is, I'm not concentrating on it too much yet though. ResMar 20:24, 13 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, I get it, just count me as a vote for a static page (updated by a bot if need be) instead of this preview method – czar 22:07, 13 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

We did consider static pages but they incur too much overhead: at that point it'd be better to move off-wiki entirely and make a Labs tool, which itself has advantages and disadvantages that we considered but ultimately backed away from. I imagine a lot of people will complain that the framework is unfamiliar, but unfamiliar doesn't mean bad, it just means different. Once you get used to it, it's not too bad. ResMar 01:51, 14 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sorting

Related articles should be sorted by date descending, not ascending. I was just reading an article on the French chapter and got the impression there had been no chapter-related news since 2006 - EEggleston (WMF) (talk) 22:16, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Stripped tag and Missing end tag lint errors

The examples in Template:Signpost series/doc, viz

{{Signpost series |type=sidebar |tag=gendergap |seriestitle=Gender gap}}
{{Signpost series |type=sidebar |tag=openaccess |seriestitle=Open access |limit=3 |sortdir=ascending}}

each have a stripped tag for </div> and missing end tag for <div>. I don't know how to fix it, so I leave it to the experts: Resident Mario, TheDJ and Headbomb. —Anomalocaris (talk) 05:45, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This template was the experiment that I tinkered with in 2015/2016 (a long, long, long time ago now). I am very out of the loop at this point because I haven't edited actively in many years, but my expectation is that this template shouldn't have any future utilizations as it never left the beta phase of development and is presently unmaintained. ResMar 16:34, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]