Template talk:Settlements of Crimea

"cities" and "towns" should be on the same line as the first row of each, so as to make the box slightly shorter, in line with Wikipedia standards. Chris 00:13, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, that is the problem... In Ukraine officialy all settlements are divided into 3 types: місто (russian город), селище міського типу (russian посёлок городского типа) and сіло (russian село). And there is a problem with translation of this terms into Eglish.

Сіло can be translated unambiguously - only as "village".

Ukranian місто is usually translated as "city", but sometimes as "town" (because some little місто's have a population about 5,000 - 10,000 inhabitants).

But the main problem is селище міського типу. Verbatim it is "urban-type settlement" (селище = settlement, міського типу = urban-type). There is no any tradition of translation of this term into English. There are a plenty of variants: "town", "settlement", "urban-type settlement", "urban-type locality". IMHO, "town" is the best one.

Uf-f-f... =)

I've made the changes. =)

Don Alessandro 11:06, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Any particular reason why the toponyms in the Russophone republic should be spelled in Ukrainian? If no coherent explanation ensues, I will deukrainize them tomorrow. --Ghirla | talk 18:38, 13 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The reason is very simple - Ukrainian is the only one official language on the whole territory of Ukraine.

That is why we write for example Zelenodolsk and Naberezhnye Chelny istead of Yäşel Üzän and Yar Çallı in spite of the fact that Tatarstan has Tatar-speaking majority.

Don Alessandro 21:58, 13 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, if you believe that Crimea is a legeitimate part of Ukraine, why don't you change Sevastopol to Sevastopil then? --Ghirla | talk 09:40, 14 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Because, as you can see here Sevastopol and here uk:Севастополь, Ukrainian name for Sevatopol is Севастополь (as well as Simferopol - uk:Сімферополь, Melitopol - Meлітополь, etc.)

Don Alessandro 13:50, 14 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You know, I suppose that in several years a law will be adopted to change these "artificial" names to the original ones (Раздольное - Ак-Шейх, Первомайское - Джурчи, etc.) Don Alessandro 13:50, 14 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]