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Here/There

Change "here" to "there" in "To edit, please create an account at home and log in with it here."... so that it will read "To edit, please create an account at home and log in with it there."
Upon first reading the template I was confused because "and log in with it here" led me to believe that the word "here" would link to the log in page... when "here" doesn't link to anything. What the title is trying to say is to create an account at home and log in with it at home, which is better understood by replacing the word "here" with "there". This makes even more sense if you consider that if an IP editor is reading this message they are likely still using the IP address of the educational institution and not yet at home (which will have a different IP)... that is the point of the message, after all. Vanstrat ⁽⁽🗼⁾⁾ 16:52, 1 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Vanstrat, No. What it's trying to say is that anonymous logins are blocked from the school. If the user creates an account at home (there, where there's no block) they'll be able to use it to log in at school (here, where they'll no longer be anonymous). I agree the here/there is ambiguous, and could be construed as referring to webpages rather than physical locations. A better phrasing which avoids the use of here/there altogether would be preferable. Cabayi (talk) 19:32, 1 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Cabayi.. hmmm... I see what you're saying. The here/there is a bit confusing. Here are a few options I thought of that could work depending on the message we're trying to get across:

"To edit, please create an account at home and log in." - This one simply removes the source of ambiguity, and as with an account they can log in here/there/at home/at school/anywhere, we don't really need to specify where they log in.
"To edit, please create an account elsewhere and log in." - We also don't need to specify where they create the account... they don't need to make it at home, they just need to use a different IP.
"To edit, please create an account elsewhere and then you may return to your institution to log in." - Makes it clear that they can still edit from their institution's IP but they need to create an account elsewhere first.

What do you think of the options? I like the last one the best because it makes it clear that they don't necessarily need to make the account at home and it makes it clear that they can still edit from their institution's IP (but don't have to) once they have an account. - Vanstrat ⁽⁽🗼⁾⁾ 20:11, 1 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The third one pushes all the right buttons and strips away the ambiguity. If nobody objects I'm happy to put that one live in a couple of days - or sit back while someone less involved does it sooner. Regards, Cabayi (talk) 20:25, 1 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The wording of the phrase with "home" set to "no" would not change, however we would need to update the documentation regarding what "home=no" does. That being said, lets add a period to the end of phrase that is used when "home" is set to "no". I just noticed that it's missing. - Vanstrat ⁽⁽🗼⁾⁾ 20:37, 1 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Vanstrat, just came back to this. It occurs to me that just using a smartphone instead of the institution's connection would be "elsewhere" enough. Cabayi (talk) 13:29, 16 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Cabayi, I thought of that as well. I also realized that even changing the network connection on your device (say, changing your phone from the institutions WiFi to LTE) can do the trick. In those cases "return to your institution" would just mean 'go back to the connection you were using before'.

I considered saying "please create an account on another device", but that could be interpreted by some as the next computer over in a computer lab... Which likely would still be on the same IP.

So, from my POV, either we change the wording and let users decide what "elsewhere" means in their specific situation.. (at least we'd be getting rid of "home" and the "here" ambiguity) or use a different wording along the lines of "To edit, please create an account using another IP address and then you may return to the original IP address to log in." But I'm worried we might be over complicating it there. Thoughts? - Vanstrat ⁽⁽🗼⁾⁾ 18:21, 16 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template-protected edit request on 14 February 2018

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<div>...</div> tags are not set up properly. One of the <div> tags is missing its end tag and one of the </div> tags is stripped. Anomalocaris (talk) 10:04, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Anomalocaris: please update [[Template:School block/sandbox] with the change you propose. — xaosflux ^Talk 20:35, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Xaoxflux: I thought had identified an error, but I can't reproduce it now. I'll reactivate this request if I can demonstrate the alleged error again. —Anomalocaris (talk) 21:44, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Restore reasonalt parameter

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Please undo per WP:BRD this edit [1] that removed the reasonalt parameter from this template. --Bsherr (talk) 17:09, 9 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Primefac (talk) 20:34, 9 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Bsherr: Can you now share the reason you wished for the change to be reverted? --Deskana (talk) 21:51, 9 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I think I know. I meant to remove the redundant and unnecessary parenthetical text, but I made a mistake and also unintendedly removed the reasonalt parameter. I've fixed that mistake now. --Deskana (talk) 22:31, 9 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That's it precisely. Thanks for your patience. Regrettably, this parameter is not documented. I will endeavor to fix that. Bsherr (talk) 22:37, 9 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No worries. Glad it worked out! --Deskana (talk) 14:15, 10 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Template-protected edit request on 9 January 2023

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TheProGamer1000 (talk) 04:00, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This appears to be an empty edit request (I have commented out the copy/paste of the entire template code, which was not helpful). Did you wish to make a request to change the text in this template? – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:22, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request for dark mode enhancements

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Please merge the main template with the dark mode enhancements in Template:School block/sandbox. Waqar💬 16:32, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done. For this one, Waqar, the sandbox had an old version of the template when you edited it. For future reference, it would be helpful if you first copy the main template to the sandbox. (For example, click "View source" at Template:School block, copy the code, then paste it into Template:School block/sandbox.) SilverLocust 💬 07:47, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gotcha, thanks! I'll make sure to copy the main template to the sandbox before editing it in the future. Waqar💬 08:46, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request 23 November 2024

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PCHS Pirate Alumnus (talk) 22:03, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]