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Slurs

Please provide refs that they are religious slurs. If there is no such ref in the corresponding articles, you cannot add it to templates. Please do not confuse ethnic slurs and religious slurs. For example Falasha is an ethnic slur. Staszek Lem (talk) 00:41, 5 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A term can be both a religious and an ethnic slur and if it is religious and "disparaging" then it is a religious slur (and may also be an ethnic slur):

Shegetz - according to dictionary.com is a) "Often Disparaging" and b) has a secondary definition that is explicitly religious ie "a term used by an observant Jew to refer to a Jewish man who is not religious or is ignorant of Judaism.."
The source does not say it is a "religious slur", which is disparaging of other's religion Staszek Lem (talk) 01:03, 5 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- That's a pedantic objection. The source says it's "disparaging" (ie a slur) and religious. Electoralist (talk) 01:09, 5 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Shiksa again according to webster's "Often disparaging" and has a religious definition of "a Jewish girl or woman who does not observe Jewish precepts —used especially by Orthodox Jews"
The source does not say it is a "religious slur", which is disparaging of other's religion Staszek Lem (talk) 01:03, 5 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- See above
Marrano is a religious term in that it refers to religious converts and it is clearly a disparaging term: "denotes in Spanish "damned," "accursed," "banned"; also "hog," and in Portuguese it is used as an opprobrious epithet of the Jews because they do not eat pork. The name was applied to the Spanish Jews who, through compulsion or for form's sake, became converted to Christianity"[1]
Originated as a disparaging term, it became a common appellation. Staszek Lem (talk) 01:03, 5 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- There's no expiry date. Electoralist (talk) 01:09, 5 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Falasha according to Forward newspaper the Beta Israel are "disparagingly known as Falashas [strangers]"[2] Electoralist (talk) 00:56, 5 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Not a religious slur. Staszek Lem (talk) 01:03, 5 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Actually, it is because the term originated as one used by Ethiopians Christians to describe Ethiopian Jews so it's a religious, not racial term, as the two are the same race/ethnicity. Electoralist (talk) 01:13, 5 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

In any case, once again, templates are tools for navigation across wikipedia articles, not for definitions. If you wand to put a term in the template, first thing you must make suree that the corresponding information is in the article: there is no place for references in templates. Staszek Lem (talk) 01:05, 5 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The point is that the terms are religious, either in their primary or secondary definitions, and are all disparaging so they belong in the template. I believe the information is also in the articles (in most cases I read the WP articles before adding the terms to the template). If you can add more information to the articles feel free but at this point there is no basis for you to keep reverting the template. Electoralist (talk) 01:07, 5 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]