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Text and/or other creative content from this version of Template:Politics of the Holy See was copied or moved into Template:Politics of Vatican City with this edit on 28 January 2019. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

Rename

Shouldn't this be Politics of the Holy See instead of Politics of the Vatican City? So far, it lists only Holy See institutions, instead of the particular government of the Vatican City set up by the Holy See. Pmadrid 20:24, 22 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Lima (talk) 09:10, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Agree. It could well be merged with Template:Politics of the Holy See. Chicbyaccident (talk) 12:14, 15 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Roman Curia Template

I made a new Holy See/Roman Curia template, {{Roman Curia}}, so I moved {{Politics of the Holy See}} back to {{Politics of Vatican City}} because there's almost nothing to do with the Holy See anymore. CanonLawJunkie (talk) 20:00, 21 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I like your new Roman Curia Template, but {{Politics of Vatican City}} should still be called {{Politics of the Holy See}}. The curia does not encompase all the politics of the Holy See - mainly its foreign policy and legal status of the Holy See. Bonifacius 15:09, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

At this point, it seems better to have 2 separate templates - one for the politics of the Vatican State and one for the Politics of the Holy See. Bonifacius 23:04, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Post template merge discussion

@Plastikspork: Are you sure you did not make a mistake here: Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2017_May_5#Template:Politics_of_Vatican_City, merging Template:Politics of the Holy See with Template:Politics of Vatican City rather than the other way around? Chicbyaccident (talk) 10:14, 15 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I don't really care which way it's merged. After the merge, one will redirect to the other. The Template:Politics of the Holy See is older, so it might make sense to merge into that one. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 00:21, 17 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 28 March 2019

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) Calidum 03:17, 13 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Politics of Vatican City → Template:Politics of the Holy See – Per discussion above, Vatican City arguably being part of the history of the Holy See, but not the other way around (despite giving that idea in template content). PPEMES (talk) 15:48, 28 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per many other RM discussions which differentiate between the country of Vatican City and the Holy See. The template is part of a series on Vatican City. The Wikipedia portal is named Portal:Vatican City. Etc. Randy Kryn (talk) 16:38, 28 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The Vatican City is a city-state with internal politics. The Holy See is a religious jurisdiction, which has foreign relations due to its religious status. Politics of Vatican City is pretty specific that it's about an entity distinct from the Holy See. Safrolic (talk) 10:01, 12 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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