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Finnieston Junctions & Template:Argyle Line

I think your current edits for Finnieston Junction and tunnels are a little bit wrong (3 lines?). It's too late tonight for me to look at it further, but I'll browse tomorrow and give you some constructive feedback. Details of the Argyle Line should not be duplicated here but placed on the linked Template:Argyle Line. Good Night. Secondarywaltz (talk) 23:09, 21 November 2007 (UTC).[reply]

As you had put the City Centre tunnels in place, I was attempting to show that the Up Argyle Line is in tunnel (ex Lanrkshire and Dunbartonshire Railway) between Finnieston West Junction and Exhibition Centre station, whilst the down Argyle line uses the ex Stobcross Railway ramp from the Glasgow Central Railway formation. If you look at what I have done to the North Clyde Line template I have used the directional STR images. --Stewart^(talk) 06:56, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Aha! I see! After having also viewed you amendments to the Argyle line I now understand that you are trying to show both tracks on that line. On the North Clyde line it looks like three separate routes flying off in different directions. Your original work here was great, just wanted to add the tunnels through central Glasgow. This should be a schematic about the route not a track diagram. If you feel the crossover junction and tunnel need explained I have an idea. This will take me a little time to work on. I'll be back! Secondarywaltz (talk) 14:33, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The difficulty here is that the Up and Down Argyle lines follow two separate routes for most of the distance between Partick and Exhibition Centre. The main issue in my mind was how to handle the tunnel on the Up Argyle line; followed closely by the sheer distance between the Finnieston East and West Junctions. I welcome any suggestions to keep it simple but realistic with the tunnels included. --Stewart^(talk) 18:08, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Finnieston Junctions
and Exhibition Centre Station

Legend

railway track

track in tunnel

station platform

covered walkway

North Clyde Line

& Argyle Line

(to Partick)

River Kelvin

West Junction

East Junction

North Clyde Line

(to Charing Cross)

to SECC

Argyle St.

Station

walkway

Finnieston St.

Argyle Line

(to Anderston)

I suggest we terminate and revert the confusing linework on the two templates we have been talking about and show a simple branch off to the other line.
Then you could use what I have created here to make an additional template to be inserted in the Exhibition Centre railway station and upgrade the information about the junctions within that article (not enough info alone). You have the local railway knowledge and could correct and fine tune this Finnieston Junctions Template. The junction within the existing templates North Clyde Line and Argyle Line would then link to this information to show the tracks and tunnels. Currently this proposed template links to "History".
Note that the custom legend allows us to use BSicons for anything we want (like the covered walkway to the SECC), but I would keep the legend short and simple: no need to show up and down lines, river, bridge, etc.
What do you think? - Secondarywaltz (talk) 18:56, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've got it now Stewart! The problem in depicting the Finnieston West Junction was the split tracks of the Argyle Line going off on either side of the North Clyde Line line. That has been amended with the North Clyde Line now shown crossing the tunnel, with stations to the east moved over to match the new alignment. The Argyle Line has similarly been amended to show the same representation of the junction. Your railway projects are very informative, Stewart, and I am just trying to bring you a fresh eye. - Secondarywaltz (talk) 19:19, 27 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Great - I have looked at what you have done I like it. The North Clyde Line and Argyle Line templates capture the Argyle Line connection. The Finnieston Junctions and Exhibition Centre railway station diagram is great. I think that this can be of future use, especially consider the history of the railway network in the area (Stobcross Railway; Glasgow Central Railway; Lanarkshire and Dumbartonshire Railway) not to metion the original Finnieston station on the Glasgow City and District Railway close to where the Glasgow Central Railway passed underneath. --Stewart^(talk) 21:47, 27 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Closed Stations

I have removed Drumgelloch (1989) and Bathgate (1986) from the route template, as they are closed stations. As I understand it the route map should only show the open stations.

Incidentally, for consistency, if these two stations are put in, then Partickhill, Bridgeton Central, Balloch Pier and Singer (works) should be added as they have all existed as part of the electrified North Clyde Line. --Stewart^{(talk | edits)} 23:24, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]