Template talk:Jct/Archive/2008

Business Plates

The doc page gives a long list of states for which business plates are currently supported, but it seems to be lying when it lists Idaho. See here and here on Idaho State Highway 200. One uses "ID-Bus" as the type, the other uses "SH-Bus", but neither produces a business plate. How does one fix this? -- Kéiryn ^talk 19:14, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

I'll take a look. --Holderca1 ^talk 19:55, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Okay, it looks like it is working now. I had to fix {{Jct/plate/ID}}, I probably didn't realized Idaho had bannered state highways when I created it. --Holderca1 ^talk 20:15, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Looks good, thanks. -- Kéiryn ^talk 22:44, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

I could have sworn it was already working for New Jersey, but could I get it fixed for the truck plate on Exit 15E of the New Jersey Turnpike list? -- Kéiryn ^talk 04:17, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

It doesn't look like it was enabled for NJ; I fixed it. --NE2 11:41, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

One more... I got the link, abbreviation and main shield image to work for a new CR-Spur type, but getting the banner plate to work is well beyond me. -- Kéiryn ^talk 02:41, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Better late than never - it's now showing up on Atlantic City Expressway. --NE2 03:22, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Great, thanks. Any chance I could get Alt plates to work too? -- Kéiryn (talk) 04:05, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Done.

CR 501 Alt. --NE2 05:17, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

I've noticed for business routes in Iowa that since all US and Iowa routes use a 2-digit blank, routes like US 151 Business in Cedar Rapids have the wrong shield. You get:

US 151 Bus. when it should be

US 151 Bus..

Also, IA-Bus does not seem to produce a plate. --Fredddie (talk) 10:00, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Fixed:

US 151 Bus. / Iowa 5 Business

Another good one - IA-Bus won't produce a business plate without a US-Bus when there's more than one route. I made some examples for your to see here. --Fredddie (talk) 10:31, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

(When you get the red template links instead of shields, like , you can click on them, change the URL to a state that you know works, and copy/paste the code with the appropriate (hopefully obvious) changes. Auxiliary plates are a lot more complicated.) --NE2 11:24, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Awesome, thanks. --Fredddie (talk) 06:49, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Interestingly, IA-Bus only seems to add the plate with a US-Bus, as we see above. Separately, it doesn't work.
Iowa 5 Business I'd try to fix it myself, but I seem to get redirected to Template:Jct/plate --Fredddie (talk) 06:48, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Oops - I made a silly (and annoying) mistake in Template:Jct/plate. --NE2 21:36, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

The template will display an Alt or Business plate above a US Route shield (using US-Alt or US-Bus as the route type). It will not display the Spur plate with a US shield. It will display a Spur plate with some state shields. Can someone add US-Spur as a valid route type? Thanks. Sehome Bay (talk) 12:53, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

West Virginia Fractional County Routes

The Jct template seems to have issues with WV fractional county routes. In WV, there will be routes numbered something like CR 60/89. This poses a problem in that we can't have a shield filename with a slash in it. Can there be some sort of work-around that would let us get the proper shield and text route name while still using the Jct template? Brian Powell (talk) 04:54, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Wow... that's kind of bad. One possibility would be a new "denom" field for the denominator, but there may be better ways. I don't think there's any way to do it with only one field, but I will think about it. --NE2 21:39, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

I finally fixed this; for instance {{jct|state=WV|CR|73|denom1=12}}:

CR 7312

--NE2 21:07, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

To

SR 522 to US 2 – Bothell, Seattle, Woodinville, Monroe

If we are specifying TO in the jct template, is there a way to add the TO banner above the route specified, like how it is done with ALT and Business? --Admrb♉ltz (t • c • log) 14:43, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

I think we decided at WT:ELG that adding a "to" plate is unnecessary. I certainly don't want to sift through the code to allow something like US-6 to SR-2 / US-50 Bus., which needs two lines of plates. --NE2 11:39, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Mmm, true, good point... Okay, I will leave it stand then. --Admrb♉ltz (t • c • log) 15:09, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

banner spacing

I-129 / US 75 Bus.

US 151 / Iowa 92 Business
The blank spacer above the Iowa 3-digit interstate shield should be 24px wide and not 25px. The same goes for Iowa US shields, except 20px since Iowa uses square shields for everything else. --Fredddie (talk) 22:41, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Fixed. --NE2 22:48, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Broken!

Recent edits to the template appear to have broken NJ Business routes. (See the NJ 33 Business junctions on New Jersey Route 33.) They appear to be reading the | character as a new table cell instead of a piped link. The template worked fine when it was first added to the article. -- Kéiryn (talk) 01:45, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm on it. --NE2 04:06, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Ugh, it was the new line in this edit; it should be working now. --NE2 04:10, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

By the way, Special:ExpandTemplates is a nice tool. --NE2 04:17, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Delaware business routes

I thought this was interesting: --Fredddie™ 08:27, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

DE 1 / DE 1 Bus.

Fixed, I think. (To anyone reading, the business plate was over the first shield.) --NE2 17:54, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Turnpikes

I added a few state turnpikes, using the format XXTP where XX is the state's postal abbreviation.

• Penna Turnpike
• Mass Pike
• Maine Turnpike (couldn't find an image, but I really didn't look for too long)

I can't claim these, but they're here for reference.

• N.J. Turnpike
• Kansas Turnpike
• Ohio Turnpike

For consistency's sake, should the New Jersey and Kansas Turnpikes abbrevations be written out as "NJ Turnpike" or "KS Turnpike"? Or vice versa, change "PA Turnpike" to "PATP"? --Fredddie™ 08:38, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

I think the most professional-looking, encyclopedic thing to do would be to use the traditional state abbreviations along with "Tpk." So we would get Pa. Tpk., Mass. Tpk., Maine Tpk., N.J. Tpk., Kan. Tpk. The two-letter postal abbreviations should really only be used when addressing letters, convenient though they may be for other purposes. —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 11:11, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

For the most part I agree. However, for the New Jersey Turnpike, NJTP is common usage, similar to how MassPike is the common abbreviation for the Massachusetts Turnpike. (Granted, MassPike is much more common since it's pronouncable. :-P) -- Kéiryn (talk) 13:43, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Seems fair enough, considering NJTP is actually on the sign. —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 17:00, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Oh, and I just noticed that one of the alternate traditional abbreviations for Pennsylvania is "Penna." Perhaps we can use that instead of "Pa." to match up with what the actual sign says (i.e. "Penna. Tpk.") —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 17:02, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

According to the US Postal Service, turnpikes should be abbreviated as Tpke. --Fredddie™ 00:25, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

I've been using what the state DOT uses - so Kansas would be KTA (which is, again, on the sign). I redirected two of the above to existing templates - so if we make changes, Template:Infobox road/KS/abbrev KTA and Template:Infobox road/MA/abbrev Masspike would be the ones to change. (Note that Image:Mass Pike shield.png is currently marked as unfree; I have no idea when the design was first used.) --NE2 17:46, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

The problem with KTA is that it stands for the Kansas Turnpike Authority. The road intersects the turnpike, not the authority that maintains it. -- Kéiryn (talk) 03:57, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Tell KDOT that --NE2 05:32, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

*shrug* Valid point, but I'd prefer not to repeat KDOT's mistake... -- Kéiryn (talk) 15:04, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Unnecessary spaces

Currently the template puts a space on either side of a / in the output. This space is a bit unecessary. Can we fix this to remove these spaces? Imzadi1979 (talk) 20:40, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

We tried a long time ago and failed. You're welcome to try if you can work out the template code. --NE2 21:24, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Wisconsin business route link not wikified

I noticed this {{Jct|state=WI|US-Bus|41|dab1=Some City|WI-Bus|13|dab2=Some City}} gives you


Bus. US 41 / Bus. WIS 13

I added the US-Bus in there to show that it's just the WIS routes. --Fredddie™ 20:37, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

This edit broke it by not using noinclude. --NE2 21:06, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I thought for sure I had added noinclude, but I guess not. --Fredddie™ 07:20, 30 December 2008 (UTC)