Template talk:Chancellors of Germany

Ebert/Haase

Can someone explain the Friedrich Ebert / Hugo Haase thing? Chancellors simultaneously, or what? The Ebert article doesn't even mention Haase. The Haase article mentions them as co-chairmen of the SPD, but says nothing about co-chancellorship. - Jmabel | Talk 06:31, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Large recent change

I'm not sure I like this change, and in any case it is enormous to go without any discussion. Yes, it is more concise, but that concision is gained by massive removal of information. - Jmabel | Talk 20:11, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Friedrich Ebert

I can't really comprehend why is he (Ebert) in a so-called "Revolutionary Period"? I believe Germany has a chancellor when the country itself exists. We've got the Empire, the Republic, the Third Reich and the Federal Republic, which are all Germany but in different forms of government. But Revolutionary Period is no form of government at least in my opinion. Obviously I have misunderstood the whole point of that section in the template but I can't find my own mistake if there's a mistake. So can somebody explain that?! --Mortdefides (talk) 11:52, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Obviously nobody can... --Mortdefides (talk) 09:31, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Ebert should be considered a de facto chancellor, otherwise his term should be refered to as a vacant!--Maher27777 (talk) 14:11, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

I've had a look. Ebert was proclaimed Reichskanzler by the last formal Chancellor of the Empire,Prince Maximilian of Baden. However, this was against the constitution, and it seems he never accepted the title, though he did take charge of the Council of the People's Deputies during the Revolutionary Period. Therefore I have removed him, as well as Lutz Graf Schwerin von Krosigk who was certainly never chancellor, from this template. --KarlFrei (talk) 09:10, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Walter Scheel

Walter Scheel was Chancellor briefly after Willy Brandt resigned. He should be added.Ericl (talk) 12:56, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

Clarification on the position in 1919

Scheidemann was Ministerpräsident. Bauer was Ministerpräsident and became Chancellor once the constitution came into force in August 1919.

As to the Ebert/Haase issue: Ebert did accept the office of Chancellor handed him by Max von Baden. he effectively was Chancellor only for a day, since the very next day the Council of the People's Deputies was created, headed by Ebert and Haase as co-chairmen. Haase resigned in late December 1918, making Ebert the sole chairman. So while he was the head of government, he was not really chancellor for that period. Haase certainly was not chancellor.Drow69 (talk) 15:44, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Correction to one point: Ebert's term as Chancellor did not stop with the creation of the Council of the People's Deputies. He served in both roles simultaneously and while the to-and-fro of revolution politics emphasized his role in the Council, all the civil servants that actually executed government policies, as well as the military, regarded Ebert as Chancellor and worked with him on that level.

In contrast, there was one altercation in which one of the other People's Deputies (Emil Barth) was simply ignored by the military officers who pointed out that they answered only to Chancellor Ebert.

Ebert remained Chancellor until the National Assembly elected him President. Str1977 ^(talk) 17:48, 4 November 2021 (UTC)