Template talk:Did you know nominations/Flyover (book)
I'm inclined to cut the middle clause discussing the book's contents along the lines of WP:DYKFICTION. @Piotrus and Hydrangeans: thoughts? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:11, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'd be disinclined to this. WP:DYKFICTION state sthat
the hook must involve the real world in some way
, and it already does. Part of the hookiness is the contrast between the very American content of the book and the lack of publication in that country's usual language (the latter part of the hook providing the real world involvement). Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 17:06, 2 July 2024 (UTC)- I'll be honest Hydrangeans, a dystopian future where the US becomes a theocracy is not what I'd call "very American content", like at all. Is that a trend in recent fiction that I've completely missed? I know that DYKFICTION requires the hook involving the real world, which is why I'm not pulling it, but the contents of fictional works can be anything, and like I said I don't see anything "hookily" paradoxical about the plot-RL contrast. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:36, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- It's 'very American' in the sense that I think to a reader, the plot'll initially come across as rather American in its preoccupation with Christian nationalism (a big current topic in U. S. politics) and American balkanization (a long-standing trope in American speculative fiction). Seeing the plot, I was intrigued by the book being published only in French, as I wondered what would draw French-reading audiences' interest. As for seeing anything 'hooky' in the contrast between them, that's a matter of disagreement between us, I guess.Without the middle clause, it comes across as being simply another case of an American expatriate author in France, and there've been lots of those. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 17:55, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, that's reasonable. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:52, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- What Hydro said - that's the main point of interest about the book. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:18, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- It's 'very American' in the sense that I think to a reader, the plot'll initially come across as rather American in its preoccupation with Christian nationalism (a big current topic in U. S. politics) and American balkanization (a long-standing trope in American speculative fiction). Seeing the plot, I was intrigued by the book being published only in French, as I wondered what would draw French-reading audiences' interest. As for seeing anything 'hooky' in the contrast between them, that's a matter of disagreement between us, I guess.Without the middle clause, it comes across as being simply another case of an American expatriate author in France, and there've been lots of those. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 17:55, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'll be honest Hydrangeans, a dystopian future where the US becomes a theocracy is not what I'd call "very American content", like at all. Is that a trend in recent fiction that I've completely missed? I know that DYKFICTION requires the hook involving the real world, which is why I'm not pulling it, but the contents of fictional works can be anything, and like I said I don't see anything "hookily" paradoxical about the plot-RL contrast. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:36, 2 July 2024 (UTC)