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Norbert Frýd

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The result was: promoted by Crisco 1492 (talk)

~~... that Czech writer Norbert Frýd's 1956 novel Krabice živých is autobiographical, based on his experiences in several Nazi concentration camps?~~

Created by Vejvančický (talk). Nominated by Orlady (talk) at 04:53, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Please add a comment and signature (or just a signature if endorsing) after each aspect you have reviewed:
Hook

Length, format, content rules: — Marrante (talk) 23:35, 8 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Source: In Czech, accepted IGF — Marrante (talk) 23:35, 8 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Interest: good
Image suitability, if applicable:
ALT hooks, if proposed:
ALT1:... that although Czech writer Norbert Frýd survived Auschwitz and other Nazi concentration camps a changed, saddened man, he fearlessly protested a friend's arrest in Communist Czechoslovakia?

Article

Length: — Marrante (talk) 00:11, 9 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Vintage: new — Marrante (talk) 00:11, 9 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Sourcing (V, RS, BLP): — Marrante (talk) 00:11, 9 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Neutrality: — Marrante (talk) 00:11, 9 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Plagiarism/close paraphrasing: Czech refs, therefore no p/cp assumed IGF
Copyvio:
Obvious faults in prose, structure, formatting: minor and fixed — Marrante (talk) 00:11, 9 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comments/discussion:

I am happy to approve this nom. I am offering an ALT1 hook because I think this is extraordinary. Either hook will do, however. — Marrante (talk) 00:11, 9 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think ALT1 parses well. How about

*ALT2: ... that although broken-spirited by survived Auschwitz and other Nazi concentration camps, Czech writer Norbert Frýd fearlessly protested a friend's arrest in Communist Czechoslovakia?

Might read better. Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:55, 9 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I saw that problem with ALT1, but read it often enough, I talked myself into it. I think you left out a word in your ALT2 (which I moved to a new line to make it easier to spot) - "having" before "survived"? I think "broken-spirited" is almost too light for the changes he went through. Broken really says it more, but can imply too much. How about this? I added a date to anchor the timing a bit, too.
ALT3: ... that although shattered by his imprisonment at Auschwitz and other Nazi concentration camps, in 1952, Czech writer Norbert Frýd fearlessly protested a friend's arrest in Communist Czechoslovakia?

— Marrante (talk) 08:26, 9 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I like ALT3. Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:30, 9 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Then that makes two votes for ALT3. If one or both the author and nominator want to weigh in on this, then we can move the article to prep. Otherwise, this is good to go! Marrante (talk) 11:40, 9 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I too agree with the ALT3. Thanks to Marrante for their help with the article. --Vejvančický (talk |

contribs) 14:51, 9 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have stricken the first hook to avoid it's being used by mistake. ALT3 is a go! Marrante (talk) 20:27, 9 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That's OK, but note that traditionally we did not strike through valid hooks merely because reviewers preferred a different one. Usually, we only strike out hooks that are bad due to lack of sourcing, BLP issues, and other problems. --Orlady (talk) 17:00, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

For clarity. Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:32, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]