Template talk:Did you know/Matthew Barnett

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Crisco 1492 (talk)

... that the Cook Statue (pictured) in Christchurch was a gift to the city by Matthew Barnett?

Reviewed: 1605 Keichō Nankaidō earthquake (diff)
Comment: The Matthew Barnett article has been created in userspace; I moved it into main space yesterday.

Created by Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 02:00, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Please add a comment and signature (or just a signature if endorsing) after each aspect you have reviewed:

Hook

Length, format, content rules – Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:42, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Source – Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:42, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Interest – Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:42, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Image suitability, if applicable – Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:42, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
ALT hooks, if proposed –

Cook Statue

Length – Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:42, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Vintage – Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:42, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Sourcing (V, RS, BLP) – Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:42, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Neutrality – Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:42, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Plagiarism/close paraphrasing – Looks okay Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:42, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
copyvio (files) – Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:42, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Obvious faults in prose, structure, formatting –

Matthew Barnett

Length – Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:42, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Vintage – Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:42, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Sourcing (V, RS, BLP) – Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:42, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Neutrality – See below. Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:42, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Plagiarism/close paraphrasing – This and this seem okay. Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:42, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
copyvio (files) – Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:42, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Obvious faults in prose, structure, formatting – Would giving a family member money in your will be considered philanthropy? Is biographical information on his wife important enough to have its own section? Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:42, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comments/discussion:

Not bad. However, I have a few issues with the Barnett article (as outlined above). Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:42, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review. Great that nominations now transclude onto articles' talk pages, so one can discuss issues with the nomination, but it also shows there, which is a great improvement.

Regarding leaving money to his brother through his will, you are right and I've shifted that information out of the philanthropy section. Regarding biographical details of his wife, I feel that it does belong into the article. Their families' histories really align (come from Australia to Otago for the goldrush, live in Dunedin eventually, but get married back in Australia). It also introduces various family members who later play an important part in Matthew Barnett's life (his wife's mother, his wife's sister). Strictly speaking, it hasn't got its own section, but I've used bold headings to differentiate between him, his wife and their children. I feel that all the information is relevant and the bold headings give the 'Early life' section some structure. With this background information, does that now work for you? Schwede 66 19:24, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Persuasive to me, although I'm not sure how others will feel. Good to go. Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:30, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Great - thanks. Both these articles are pretty decent and way beyond minimum requirements, so this could be considered for the lead hook, IMO. Schwede 66 05:48, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lead hook depends on the image. The statue is not bad, so it might have a chance. Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:37, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]