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Chinjusha
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- ... that Buddhist temples in Japan are protected by special Shinto shrines called chinjusha?
Created by Urashimataro (talk). Self nom at 02:30, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
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It seems that the distinction between chinjugami and chinjusha (which house chunjugami) is a fine one; one of the sources for the hook fact (the only one that's online) is actually about chinjugami rather than chinjusha. As far as I can tell it still looks like it supports the hook (the source seems to say that chinjugami are guardian spirits over a particular house, family, geographical area, or tract of land, whereas the hook says chinjusha protect particular temples, which seems like a similar claim to me), but just in case there are any nuanced differences between these claims I'd rather leave the rest of the verification to someone who understands this topic better. rʨanaɢ (talk) 13:38, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
- My text I think is clear: a chinjusha is a shrine that houses a chinjugami. They are closely related, but completely different things. Frank (Urashima Tarō) (talk) 23:56, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, that part is clear. What wasn't clear to me is whether the source confirms what the hook says, since the source seems to be entirely about chinjugami and doesn't mention chinjusha (as far as I remember). rʨanaɢ (talk) 01:59, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
- Please see this. It is one of the eight (not one) online references I quote which support what I say. I honestly do not see the problem. Frank (Urashima Tarō) (talk) 23:24, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
- That reference was not right next to the statement I was talking about, which is why I didn't see it. Now it's clearer. rʨanaɢ (talk) 04:59, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
Fixed two links which didn't work because of a typo. All eight online links now work Frank (Urashima Tarō) (talk) 03:37, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
- 16px Most things check out, but I spotted close paraphrasing at "Behind the inclusion within a shrine of Buddhist religious objects was the idea that the kami were lost beings in need of liberation through the power of Buddha" (source: "Behind the establishment of jingūji at that time was the theory that kami were lost and suffering sentient beings who were in need of liberation through the power of the Buddhist teachings"). I'll need some time to check the rest of the article in more detail. rʨanaɢ (talk) 20:17, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
Good to go. I looked through more of the article and I think the one sentence I was concerned about was isolated; I don't see egregious paraphrasing issues. Everything else checks out. rʨanaɢ (talk) 20:32, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
