Template talk:Convert/Archive April 2009

Negative distance values/minus sign formatting

This problem probably hasn't been encountered very often, but I've discovered that when dealing with negative distance values (in my case, using metres-to-feet conversion), the outputted conversion (feet value) is correctly formatted with an en-dash as the minus sign, while the original value (metres value) is returned with a hyphen as minus sign. I tried using the en-dash as input value, but obviously that throws the template code.

You might wonder why I'd be dealing with negative distances -- my case in point is the article Voronya Cave, currently the deepest cave in the world, in which location depths are marked as negative-number values in metres and/or feet. So for example, I would use {{convert|-1200|m|ft|abbr=on}}, which currently returns -1,200 m (–3,937 ft). Is there a reasonably quick fix in the code to make the template return an en-dash for both values? Thanks, Fattonyni (talk) 23:19, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

It's not an en-dash but a minus sign (they look different on some browsers –−–−–−–−–−). This really deserves something better than a quick fix but until there's time I'll work on one. JIMp _talk·cont 07:33, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

{{editprotected}}

Here is the new code for {{Convert/LoffAonDbSoff}}.

{{convert/numdisp|{{{1}}}}}&nbsp;{{{u}}} ({{convert/{{#if:{{{2|}}}|{{{o}}}|{{{3}}}}}|{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}*{{{b}}}|{{#if:{{{2|}}}|{{{3|}}}|{{{4|}}}}}|{{{s|}}}|r={{{r}}}|j={{{j}}}|d=LoffAonSoff}})<noinclude>
[[Category:Subtemplates of Template Convert]] {{pp-template|small=yes}}
</noinclude>

JIMp _talk·cont 10:10, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

 Done—MJCdetroit ^(yak) 04:20, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Cool, thanks for sorting that. I see the experimental "or" parameter still shows a hyphen instead of a minus sign though; can a similar section of code be added to this? e.g. "{{convert|-1508|m|ft|disp=or|abbr=on}}" shows "-1,508 m or −4,948 ft". Fattonyni (talk) 09:09, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Update: Also when using the range function the same problem occurs. Fattonyni (talk) 09:18, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

It's going to take similar edits to a number of templates to get this solution working properly everywhere but this particular quick-fix is not really the best way to go. JIMp _talk·cont 09:48, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

This code should be added to {{Convert/LoffAonDorSoff}}. JIMp _talk·cont 10:08, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Rounding bug at Zero

It appears this template has a bug when converting Zero from metres to feet:

{{convert|0|m|abbr=on}}

gives

0 m (1 ft 0 in)

--Ozhiker (talk) 11:15, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

I'll look into it. JIMp _talk·cont 12:33, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

{{edit protected}}

Please edit {{Convert/m}} to the following.

{{convert/{{{d}}}|{{{1}}}|{{{2|}}}|{{{3|}}}|{{{4|}}}|s={{{s|}}}|r={{{r}}}
|u=m
|n=met{{{r}}}
|t=metre
|o=ft{{#ifexpr:{{{1|4}}}>0 and {{{1|4}}}<3|in}}
|b=1
|j=0-{{{j|0}}}}}<noinclude>
{{pp-template|small=yes}}
[[Category:Subtemplates of Template Convert]]
</noinclude>

JIMp _talk·cont 18:27, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

 Done --CapitalR (talk) 21:39, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Bug in range converts

I noticed this problem at Typhoon class submarine in the infobox where the class's displacements are displayed as a pair of ranges. {{convert|23200|-|24500|t|LT|-1|lk=on|abbr=on}} and {{convert|33800|-|48000|t|LT|-1|abbr=on}} are the relevant templates. This appears to happen when the output number would be 1,000 or more (and thus would be formatted with a comma). Just thought I'd stop by and mention it. —/Mendaliv/^2¢/_Δ's/ 14:21, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

fixedJIMp _talk·cont 18:28, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

should work, but doesn't

{{convert|39896|km/h|m/s mph|abbr=on}} doesn't seem to work: 39,896 km/h (11,082 m/s; 24,790 mph) Maybe I'm missing something. jhf (talk) 20:21, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, its either m/s or mph, you've got both. GregorB (talk) 21:03, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

I don't understand how this differs from the multiple-conversion example given in the documentation: {{convert|641|acre|km2 sqmi|lk=on}}, which works: 641 acres (2.59 km²; 1.002 sq mi). The units and the switches are different, is all. {{convert|641|acre|km2 sqmi|abbr=on}} works too, so it doesn't seem to be the switches. jhf (talk) 22:09, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Each "convert to" pair must be specifically created. Just because "km2 sqmi" works, doesn't mean that "m/s mph" must work as well. Everything isn't dynamically created, it must be hard-coded beforehand. — Huntster (t • @ • c) 22:43, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I see the "combinations" column in the doc now. Thank you. jhf (talk) 23:03, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Add "or" to range

Can "or" be added to range values, to work similarly to "to"? Gaius Cornelius (talk) 06:57, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

bot to hard code convert template results

Moved. See Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#bot to hard code convert template results). —EncMstr (talk) 05:32, 24 April 2009 (UTC)