Template talk:Cite serial/Archive 1

This is an archive of past discussions about Template:Cite serial. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page.

Archive 1

To help centralise discussions and keep related topics together, citation-related talk page discussion and archives can be found here

Citing an episode within a serial

Can this template be expanded to cite individual episodes of a serial? I wanted to cite The Tenth Planet episode 4 specifically at First Doctor#Personality, and neither {{cite episode}} or {{cite serial}} quite fits. It seems to me that it wouldn't be too difficult to add an optional field so that the citation could read like this:

The Tenth Planet, "Episode 4". Writer Gerry Davis, Director Derek Martinus, Producer Innes Lloyd. Doctor Who. BBC. BBC1, London. October 29, 1966.

Unfortunately, I don't understand template syntax well enough to add the field myself. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 02:05, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

I'll give it a shot - I copied this template from Cite episode, but I think in examining it I'm beginning to grasp the fundamentals of the syntax. I had been treating those cases as if the full name was "The Tenth Planet, Episode 4", but your way is better. I'll work on it tonight or tomorrow. --Brian Olsen 00:19, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Done! Once I'm presented with a problem like this, I just can't rest until it's solved. I've added an "episode" parameter. It should work, let me know. I'll change the WHO citations page to mention the addition when I get a chance. I've noticed that the "url" parameter doesn't seem to work, but I don't think it works on {{cite episode}} either. I'll check that out when I can - it doesn't seem to be used much, so I don't think there's a rush. --Brian Olsen 01:19, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Lovely! Thanks for taking care of this! —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 05:15, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

episodelink to seriallink

I've changed the parameter "episodelink" to "seriallink". It didn't seem important before, but now that there's an "episode" parameter, it seemed necessary to make it clear that "seriallink" links the "serial" parameter, not the "episode" parameter. --Brian Olsen 03:17, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Parameter Language

How about this parameter? It will be useful because serials unfortunately not always in english. --85.140.38.72 (talk) 14:13, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't fully understand when and how this parameter would be used. I see that this has also been proposed at Cite episode; if it's implemented there I'll see how to work it in here. --Brian Olsen (talk) 02:46, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

MOS Date changes

I've updated the template to reflect changes to the Manual of Style regarding dates. I think it's working all right, and I've updated the documentation to explain. Please feel free to contact me if I've broken a reference somewhere. --Brian Olsen (talk) 02:45, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Update to citation/core

Update to use {{citation/core}} is now in sandbox. This makes the template compliant with Citation Style 1 and adds all supported features. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 14:44, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

**Current**
Markup	Renders as
{{cite serial \|title=[[Genesis of the Daleks]] \|series=[[Doctor Who]] \|credits=Writer [[Terry Nation]], Director [[David Maloney]], Producer [[Philip Hinchcliffe]] \|network=[[BBC]] \|station=[[BBC One\|BBC1]] \|city=London \|began=1975-03-08 \|ended=1975-04-12}}	Writer Terry Nation, Director David Maloney, Producer Philip Hinchcliffe. Genesis of the Daleks. Doctor Who. BBC. BBC1. `{{cite serial}}`: Unknown parameter `\|began=` ignored (`\|date=` suggested) (help); Unknown parameter `\|city=` ignored (`\|location=` suggested) (help); Unknown parameter `\|ended=` ignored (`\|date=` suggested) (help)
{{cite serial \|title=[[An Unearthly Child]] \|series=[[Doctor Who]] \|credits=Writers [[Anthony Coburn]], [[C. E. Webber]], Directors [[Waris Hussein]], [[Douglas Camfield]], Producers [[Verity Lambert]], [[Mervyn Pinfield]] \|network=[[BBC]] \|city=London \|began=23 November 1963 \|ended=14 December 1963}}	Writers Anthony Coburn, C. E. Webber, Directors Waris Hussein, Douglas Camfield, Producers Verity Lambert, Mervyn Pinfield. An Unearthly Child. Doctor Who. BBC. `{{cite serial}}`: Unknown parameter `\|began=` ignored (`\|date=` suggested) (help); Unknown parameter `\|city=` ignored (`\|location=` suggested) (help); Unknown parameter `\|ended=` ignored (`\|date=` suggested) (help)
{{cite serial \|title=ICP on Howard Stern 9.1.09 \|url=http://www.insaneclownposse.com/media/interview/icp_howard_stern_090901.mp3 \|series=The Howard Stern Show \|serieslink=The Howard Stern Show \|credits=Howard Stern (host) and Insane Clown Posse (guests) \|network=[[Sirius Satellite Radio]] \|station=[[Howard 100 and Howard 101\|Howard 100]] \|airdate=1 September 2009}}	Howard Stern (host) and Insane Clown Posse (guests) (1 September 2009). ICP on Howard Stern 9.1.09. The Howard Stern Show. Sirius Satellite Radio. Howard 100. `{{cite serial}}`: Unknown parameter `\|serieslink=` ignored (`\|series-link=` suggested) (help)

**Sandbox**
Markup	Renders as
{{cite serial/sandbox \|title=[[Genesis of the Daleks]] \|series=[[Doctor Who]] \|credits=Writer [[Terry Nation]], Director [[David Maloney]], Producer [[Philip Hinchcliffe]] \|network=[[BBC]] \|station=[[BBC One\|BBC1]] \|city=London \|began=1975-03-08 \|ended=1975-04-12}}	Writer Terry Nation, Director David Maloney, Producer Philip Hinchcliffe (1975-03-08–1975-04-12). Genesis of the Daleks. Doctor Who. London. BBC. BBC1.
{{cite serial/sandbox \|title=[[An Unearthly Child]] \|series=[[Doctor Who]] \|credits=Writers [[Anthony Coburn]], [[C. E. Webber]], Directors [[Waris Hussein]], [[Douglas Camfield]], Producers [[Verity Lambert]], [[Mervyn Pinfield]] \|network=[[BBC]] \|city=London \|began=23 November 1963 \|ended=14 December 1963}}	Writers Anthony Coburn, C. E. Webber, Directors Waris Hussein, Douglas Camfield, Producers Verity Lambert, Mervyn Pinfield (23 November 1963–14 December 1963). An Unearthly Child. Doctor Who. London. BBC.
{{cite serial/sandbox \|title=ICP on Howard Stern 9.1.09 \|url=http://www.insaneclownposse.com/media/interview/icp_howard_stern_090901.mp3 \|series=The Howard Stern Show \|serieslink=The Howard Stern Show \|credits=Howard Stern (host) and Insane Clown Posse (guests) \|network=[[Sirius Satellite Radio]] \|station=[[Howard 100 and Howard 101\|Howard 100]] \|airdate=1 September 2009}}	Howard Stern (host) and Insane Clown Posse (guests) (1 September 2009). ICP on Howard Stern 9.1.09. The Howard Stern Show. Sirius Satellite Radio. Howard 100.

Sandbox with updated parameters

Markup

Renders as

{{cite serial/sandbox |title=[[Genesis of the Daleks]] |series=[[Doctor Who]] |last=Nation |first=Nation (Writer) |authorlink=Terry Nation |last2=Maloney |first2=David |authorlink2=David Maloney |last3=Hinchcliffe |first3=Philip (Producer) |authorlink3=Philip Hinchcliffe |network=[[BBC]] |station=[[BBC One|BBC1]] |city=London |began=8 March 1975 |ended=12 April 1975}}

Nation, Nation (Writer); Maloney, David; Hinchcliffe, Philip (Producer) (8 March 1975–12 April 1975). Genesis of the Daleks. Doctor Who. London. BBC. BBC1.

{{cite serial/sandbox |title=ICP on Howard Stern 9.1.09 |url=http://www.insaneclownposse.com/media/interview/icp_howard_stern_090901.mp3 |series=[[The Howard Stern Show]] |last=Stern |first=Howard (Host) |authorlink=Howard Stern |last2=Insane Clown Posse (guests) |authorlink2=Insane Clown Posse |network=[[Sirius Satellite Radio]] |station=[[Howard 100 and Howard 101|Howard 100]] |date=September 1, 2009}}

Stern, Howard (Host); Insane Clown Posse (guests) (September 1, 2009). ICP on Howard Stern 9.1.09. The Howard Stern Show. Sirius Satellite Radio. Howard 100.

Markup	Renders as
{{cite serial \|title=[[Genesis of the Daleks]] \|series=[[Doctor Who]] \|credits=Writer [[Terry Nation]], Director [[David Maloney]], Producer [[Philip Hinchcliffe]] \|network=[[BBC]] \|station=[[BBC One\|BBC1]] \|city=London \|began=1975-03-08 \|ended=1975-04-12}}	Writer Terry Nation, Director David Maloney, Producer Philip Hinchcliffe. Genesis of the Daleks. Doctor Who. BBC. BBC1. `{{cite serial}}`: Unknown parameter `\|began=` ignored (`\|date=` suggested) (help); Unknown parameter `\|city=` ignored (`\|location=` suggested) (help); Unknown parameter `\|ended=` ignored (`\|date=` suggested) (help)
{{cite serial \|title=[[An Unearthly Child]] \|series=[[Doctor Who]] \|credits=Writers [[Anthony Coburn]], [[C. E. Webber]], Directors [[Waris Hussein]], [[Douglas Camfield]], Producers [[Verity Lambert]], [[Mervyn Pinfield]] \|network=[[BBC]] \|city=London \|began=23 November 1963 \|ended=14 December 1963}}	Writers Anthony Coburn, C. E. Webber, Directors Waris Hussein, Douglas Camfield, Producers Verity Lambert, Mervyn Pinfield. An Unearthly Child. Doctor Who. BBC. `{{cite serial}}`: Unknown parameter `\|began=` ignored (`\|date=` suggested) (help); Unknown parameter `\|city=` ignored (`\|location=` suggested) (help); Unknown parameter `\|ended=` ignored (`\|date=` suggested) (help)
{{cite serial \|title=ICP on Howard Stern 9.1.09 \|url=http://www.insaneclownposse.com/media/interview/icp_howard_stern_090901.mp3 \|series=The Howard Stern Show \|serieslink=The Howard Stern Show \|credits=Howard Stern (host) and Insane Clown Posse (guests) \|network=[[Sirius Satellite Radio]] \|station=[[Howard 100 and Howard 101\|Howard 100]] \|airdate=1 September 2009}}	Howard Stern (host) and Insane Clown Posse (guests) (1 September 2009). ICP on Howard Stern 9.1.09. The Howard Stern Show. Sirius Satellite Radio. Howard 100. `{{cite serial}}`: Unknown parameter `\|serieslink=` ignored (`\|series-link=` suggested) (help)