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Can I just say wow and well done to whomever redid this diagram ;-P --AlisonW (talk) 11:24, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Based on this[1] page the layout at Stratford is suggested to be the one in this diagram. Any comments welcome (I have to be quick as my internet connection comes and goes) Britmax (talk) 17:24, 26 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The section under construction would have to be swapped with the one in use when this occurs in reality. I had thought to move the Central line one column to the left. As the real one interleaves with the GEML this would be no less accurate than now but would reduce the editing "cranks" above and below Stratford. The low level platforms could be more properly set in a vertical line but there was no interchange icon to allow this last time I looked (I will check again).Britmax (talk) 17:38, 26 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Central Line
CTRL
Lea Valley Lines
Great Eastern Main Line
Possible future link
Stratford National Rail London Overground Docklands Light Railway
High Level
New NLL Platform
(Under construction)
Low Level
North London Line
former North London Line
Great Eastern Main Line
Jubilee Line
Docklands Light Railway

Stratford layout

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Central Line
CTRL
Lea Valley Lines
Great Eastern Main Line
Possible future link
Stratford National Rail London Overground Docklands Light Railway
High Level
New NLL Platform
(Under construction)
Low Level
North London Line
former North London Line
Great Eastern Main Line
Jubilee Line
Docklands Light Railway (proposed)

or

Central Line
CTRL
Lea Valley Lines
Great Eastern Main Line
Possible future link
Stratford National Rail London Overground Docklands Light Railway
High Level
New NLL Platform
(Under construction)
Low Level
North London Line
former North London Line
Great Eastern Main Line
Jubilee Line
Docklands Light Railway

I think the layout of Stratford should be refined more. Above i have two proposals, one with the proposed DLR layout as well as the current platforms (in the wrong place but i'm not sure how to put them right) and the second shows the DLR platforms in the right place but without the proposed\under construction DLR platforms. This was adapted from the irst diagram at the very top. How is this to be sorted? Simply south (talk) 19:01, 26 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Stratford revision redux

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Central Line
Lea Valley Lines
Great Eastern Main Line
CTRL
New NLL Platform
Stratford High Level
Stratford Low Level
Stratford International
Docklands Light Railway via Canning Town
Great Eastern Main Line
Jubilee Line
North London Line
Docklands Light Railway via Poplar
CTRL

Looking at the PDF of the actual building plans it is clear that there can't be a connection onwards from the new NLL platforms, so I'm heading towards this layout (needs a CPIC version of mKBHFxe yet). The interchange icons at Stratford can be removed as they are all shown explicitly, and yes, I've had to create an even wider template to do this but I think it works and has some resemblance to geography too. --AlisonW (talk) 01:03, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]


This is a vast improvement although I feel that having the diagram the same width for the whole Central L:ine diagram might be awkward. We could use eKBFe until the DLR take over that platform during which time the blue version may become available. I believe the NLL is still using this platform until then ( or the completion of its new one). Britmax (talk) 08:12, 28 April 2008 (UTC)== Stratford revision redux ==[reply]

Central Line
Lea Valley Lines
Great Eastern Main Line
CTRL
New NLL Platform
Stratford High Level
Stratford Low Level
Stratford International
Docklands Light Railway via Canning Town
Great Eastern Main Line
Jubilee Line
North London Line
Docklands Light Railway via Poplar
CTRL

Looking at the PDF of the actual building plans it is clear that there can't be a connection onwards from the new NLL platforms, so I'm heading towards this layout (needs a CPIC version of mKBHFxe yet). The interchange icons at Stratford can be removed as they are all shown explicitly, and yes, I've had to create an even wider template to do this but I think it works and has some resemblance to geography too. --AlisonW (talk) 01:03, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]


This is a vast improvement although I feel that having the diagram the same width for the whole Central L:ine diagram might be awkward. We could use eKBFe until the DLR take over that platform during which time the blue version may become available. I believe the NLL is still using this platform until then ( or the completion of its new one). Britmax (talk) 08:12, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Central Line BS8-2

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Central Line
North Weald
Blake Hall
M11
Ongar
Coopersale Halt
(Rail access only)
Former Ongar Line
(Epping-Ongar Railway)
Epping
M25
Theydon Bois
Debden
Loughton
Loughton Stabling
Sidings
Buckhurst Hill
Roding Valley
M11
Chigwell
Grange Hill
Woodford
Woodford Stabling
Hainault depot
Sidings
Hainault
A406
Fairlop
South Woodford
Barkingside
Newbury Park
A12
LNER Fairlop Loop to
Snaresbrook
Ilford and Seven Kings
A12
Gants Hill
Wanstead
Redbridge
Leytonstone
Gospel Oak to Barking Line
Leyton
High Speed 1
Lea Valley Lines
Great Eastern Main Line
Stratford International
High Speed 1
Stratford High Level
Stratford Low Level
North London Line
DLR via Canning Town
Great Eastern Main Line
Jubilee Line
DLR via Poplar
District Line and H&C
Mile End
Bethnal Green
Liverpool Street National Rail
Bank Docklands Light Railway
St Paul's
Chancery Lane
Holborn
British Museum
Tottenham Court Road
Oxford Circus
Bond Street
Marble Arch
Lancaster Gate
Queensway
Notting Hill Gate
Holland Park
Shepherd's Bush
West London Line
Shepherd's Bush
Right hand
running starts
White City depot
Wood Lane (Central Line)
Hammersmith & City Line
Wood Lane (Metropolitan Line)
Wood Lane (H&C)
White City
GWR Goods line
Westway (A40)
to West London Line
Flyover restores
left hand running
to Paddington
East Acton
Great Western Main Line
North London Line
New North Main Line
North Acton
First Central (proposed)
A40
West Acton
Piccadilly line
Piccadilly and District Lines
A406/A40 gyratory
Hanger Lane
Great Western Main Line
District Line terminus
Ealing Broadway National Rail
Perivale
Greenford Branch Line
Greenford National Rail
Chiltern Main Line
Northolt
South Ruislip National Rail
Ruislip Gardens
West Ruislip depot
Metropolitan line and
Piccadilly line
West Ruislip National Rail
Aborted Denham extension
Harefield Road
Denham
Chiltern Main Line


This is a BS8-2 version to allow us to explore possibilities. I have included Alison's version of Stratford. Britmax (talk) 09:38, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

First ideas: move the DLR notes at Stratford to two lines to save width and lose an editing crank from just below there. Britmax (talk) 10:39, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I would remove the crank between Liverpool Street and Bank except that the reason I put it there specifically is that the line does curve there to avoid surface buildings, among others the vaults of the Bank itself. This may be notable enough to leave in if I can source it. Comments? Britmax (talk) 10:47, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Stratford width is easily solved by change "Docklands Light Railway" to just "DLR", and certainly the crank immediately below that can be removed by one width at both ends. It always comes back to how accurate we want to try to be with these route diagrams, and how many intersecting lines we wish to detail (of all those including Stratford this is by far the most complex and detailed). --AlisonW (talk) 10:54, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Central Line
High Speed 1
Lea Valley Lines
Great Eastern Main Line
Stratford International
High Speed 1
Stratford High Level
Stratford Low Level
North London Line
DLR via Canning Town
Great Eastern Main Line
Jubilee Line
DLR via Poplar

Slight revision of Stratford area so that when the new lines are completed it is still possible to squeeze it all in within 8 columns! --AlisonW (talk) 11:46, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Revised using overlays and some newly-created icons to make it perfect! --AlisonW (talk) 15:53, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

With the new BS8-2 on the whole template (not just stratford), the writing is too close to some of the icons. This is noticable on the Hainault Loop. Could this be sorted? Simply south (talk) 17:11, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The platform I have removed today would be hard to place. The Central and Main Line platforms are over the old NLL at this point so to even clip the south end of the high level the rise on this link would rival most roller coasters. I will try to place the high level stations over the low level at some point for accuracy. Britmax (talk) 08:56, 3 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Um, what you removed isn't a *former* link but the *new* one, where the NLL is being changed from running to the through platforms formerly to North Woolwich but now stopping at Stratford. As such I'll reinstate shortly. As regards accuracy, clearly this is never going to happen; one reason why this is a diagrammatic representation of the line and not a scale drawing! The current depiction is fine to see the routes, which is what really matters. --AlisonW (talk) 14:36, 3 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Having studied this [2] plan, I have reworked the Stratford area. I've removed the high and low level notes as I'm not sure where to put them. Britmax (talk) 20:43, 3 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Coopersale

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There is (and never was) a station at Coopersale. Unless there is tangible evidence, e.g. planning application or active building work, then it is only speculation and so should not appear on the Central line map. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.154.43.47 (talk) 17:54, 22 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Which airport does this link to? The nearest civilian airport is Heathrow, and I don't think Northolt has scheduled flights, although I could be wrong. Either way this could do with clarification. Britmax (talk) 09:27, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think it is intended to be for Northolt Aerodrome. Ruislip Gardens is closer to the perimeter fence, but has no service from Marylebone, whereas South Ruislip has one per hour (two if you go out to West Ruislip and come back). --Redrose64 (talk) 11:41, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Bond Street

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Can someone make Bond Street step free?

I don't know how to change this - and I don't want to break this wonderful work by attempting to change it. Thanks!Turini2 (talk) 23:53, 19 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Turini2:  Done Jc86035 (talk) 03:22, 20 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Grange Hill

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For some reason, Grange Hill station doesn't appear to be marked on the diagram. Could someone experienced with train diagrams fix this? 86.135.108.253 (talk) 16:53, 2 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Bazza (talk) 17:00, 2 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]