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Why included?

~~Why are Luke and Mark, who are not among the Twelve, included in this template title Apostles? Str1977 ^{(smile back)} 00:01, 30 January 2007 (UTC)~~[reply]

Why is St. Paul included in this template? He was not one of the twelve Apostles. I can see the argument for including Matthias in this list because he replaced Judas Iscariot, but no such argument can be made for Paul. Tjtenor2 (talk) 11:35, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Paul claimed to be the "Apostle to the Gentiles". Catholic Encyclopedia: Apostles: "Saul of Tarsus, being miraculously converted, and called to preach the Gospel to the heathens, claimed with much insistency this title and its rights. " 1 Cor 9:1: "Am I not an apostle?".75.15.204.93 (talk) 18:19, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tey.eur added Luke the Evangelist and Mark the Evangelist, and moved James before Paul. Luke and Mark were reverted by Jerium. Seems worth discussing. Would Luke fit into 'Related' as the author of the bestsellers 'Acts of the Apostles' and his gospel/biography which featured, reported on, and introduced the apostles? Mark filled that same role as the author of his gospel/biography, being one-of-four individuals who initially informed the public about an interesting series of events involving the navbox topic. To me that seems enough of a connection to find a place for them in the 'Related' section of the navbox. Thanks, Tey.eur and Jerium, for putting attention on a good question resulting in a continuation of the above talk page discussion, and for the chronological move of James. And a ping to Str1977, who began the discussion (and interested in why their edit was struck). Randy Kryn (talk) 03:10, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'd recommaned Four Evangelists and the Seventy disciples be added to "Related" in the template, but indicating the two as apostles is inaccurate as they were never referred as apostles and is not in mainstream academics. Jerium (talk) 17:35, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]