Template talk:Addiction
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Nicotine addiction
[edit]Why is nicotine addiction missing? eu.stefan (talk) 12:40, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
Travel (as Hypermobility (travel))
[edit]Re the revert of my edit by User:Seppi333: Most of the items are "Behavioral addictions". I think Hypermobility (travel) falls in the mid-range of this spectrum of Addiction and easily justifies an entry there. Indeed, in Behavioral addiction, travel is named & linked. DadaNeem (talk) 22:26, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
- You've probably noticed that I re-added it with a few entries following a reorganization of the template. Seppi333 (Insert 2¢) 23:11, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
Dependence tag
[edit]Addiction and dependence glossary[1][2][3] | |
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Thanks for getting back to me User: Seppi333. I may be a bit tired (due to Wikipedia addiction!) but wonder what's the difference between Dependence and Behavioral addiction? They both seem to be there or thereabouts. DadaNeem (talk) 23:16, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
- See the glossary to the right. Seppi333 (Insert 2¢) 23:18, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
- Edit: I should probably add that a behavioral dependence is essentially the same thing as a drug dependence; the withdrawal syndrome occurs as a consequence of no longer engaging in a behavior (consistent exercise, for example, induces psychological dependence in most people). Seppi333 (Insert 2¢) 23:21, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
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Reward disorder or reinforcement disorder
[edit]I think that this template should refer to "reward disorder" not "reinforcement disorder". Reward is a bit more fundamental. Reinforcement is tied into operant conditioning and it depends if you are talking about positive reinforcement or negative reinforcement. Reward system has a section on addiction reward system#Addiction while reinforcement does not.--Penbat (talk) 10:16, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
- @Penbat: Addiction → positive reinforcement; dependence → negative reinforcement. Seppi333 (Insert 2¢) 10:26, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
- In any event, it's not really my term; I used that title as the heading because it's the title of a textbook chapter (see the first ref listed in the collapse tab above this section). Seppi333 (Insert 2¢) 10:29, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
- If this was robust enough it should be possible to add a subsection on addiction to reinforcement#Applications. Currently there are only two mentions of "addiction" in the reinforcement body text, both mentions uncited. The inclusion of the {{addiction glossary}} and {{Reinforcement disorders}} templates in reinforcement seem difficult to justify. I see there are refs associated with {{addiction glossary}} which relate to reinforcement but they need to be integrated into the reinforcement body text. --Penbat (talk) 11:02, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
- I agree, the reinforcement article needs to be expanded on this topic. Seppi333 (Insert 2¢) 11:19, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
- Do u have the necessary knowledge because I dont.--Penbat (talk) 11:22, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, I'm very familiar with the topic, but I won't have time to work on this until next weekend. Seppi333 (Insert 2¢) 12:41, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
- Cool. It doesnt have to be brilliant but a couple of paragraphs ought to be in an addiction subsection in reinforcement#Applications and potentially more detail in the addiction article itself.--Penbat (talk) 15:59, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, I'm very familiar with the topic, but I won't have time to work on this until next weekend. Seppi333 (Insert 2¢) 12:41, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
- Do u have the necessary knowledge because I dont.--Penbat (talk) 11:22, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
- I agree, the reinforcement article needs to be expanded on this topic. Seppi333 (Insert 2¢) 11:19, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
- If this was robust enough it should be possible to add a subsection on addiction to reinforcement#Applications. Currently there are only two mentions of "addiction" in the reinforcement body text, both mentions uncited. The inclusion of the {{addiction glossary}} and {{Reinforcement disorders}} templates in reinforcement seem difficult to justify. I see there are refs associated with {{addiction glossary}} which relate to reinforcement but they need to be integrated into the reinforcement body text. --Penbat (talk) 11:02, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
Update: I meant to add this content last week, but it slipped my mind. I'll leave a reminder for myself to do it after I finish moving sometime later next week. I'm going to be busy packing and driving across the United States between now and then. If I haven't started working on it by May 1st, please leave me a reminder. There's a fair amount of content in other articles about the role of reinforcement in addiction that I could just copy and paste, with a little revision, into the reinforcement article. Consequently, it shouldn't be too much work for me to add an adequate summary of how positive reinforcement and conditioned reinforcement mediate addiction. However, adding content on how negative reinforcement mediates dependence will require me to go back into sources I've already read and/or search for new medical reviews on the topic in order to adequately cover it. To my knowledge, there isn't an adequate and well-cited summary of how negative reinforcement is involved in dependence anywhere on Wikipedia at the moment. Seppi333 (Insert 2¢) 12:04, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
- Cool. I have had a trawl myself of Wiki articles that mention reinforcement including addction. There are quite a few but most dont seem to be cited. If they were I would have copied and pasted stuff myself into reinforcement, although I did copy and paste some cited stuff eg Praise#As_behavioral_reinforcement.--Penbat (talk) 12:39, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
- In my view "reinforcement disorder" is a better term, partly because the addictive potential of opiates and tranquilizers comes largely from negative reinforcement, i.e. suppression of pain and suffering. Looie496 (talk) 14:41, 9 April 2017 (UTC)