Template talk:Accents of English
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Volume names and other matters
[edit]@Nardog: Greetings and felicitations. I noticed that you have manually reverted my edits to this template. I'd like to point out that volume titles are italicized per
- The Chicago Manual of Style 17th Ed. §§14.117–14.122 (pp. 808–810 of the hardcover)
- the MLA Handbook, Ninth Ed., §5.117 "Multivolume Works" (pp. 215–216 of the hardcover)
and that the Internet Archive copy of Accents of English is an omnibus edition per its table of contents. —DocWatson42 (talk) 23:58, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
- I don't see any example where the volume title is italicized but the word "Volume" and the following number are not in the documentation for {{cite book}} (which this template is just a workaround for, since the book has multiple ISBNs), so I suggest you make a case for italicizing all volume titles at WT:CS1 first, as it makes little sense to italicize them in just this template but not in the vast majority of book citations.
- All three volumes have the full ToC in their front matter. There's no "omnibus edition". If it is, then how does it have only 220 pages? You only have to flip back to know which edition it is. And again, it likely falls (or will fall) under WP:ELNEVER given where Hachette v. Internet Archive appears to be headed. Nardog (talk) 00:11, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
- Since you haven't replied there—see Wikipedia talk:Copyright violations/Archive_2#Status of linking to works on the Internet Archive (and Google Books and HathiTrust)?. WP:ELNEVER nor Hachette v. Internet Archive apply, though I was fooled by the volume's table of contents. —DocWatson42 (talk) 06:27, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
- What GreenC (who is paid by Internet Archive btw) is saying you can link to in that discussion is limited views of specific pages. Since you can't access any substantial content of a book without controlled digital lending unless you link to a specific page, linking to the top (or ToC) of the IA page for an entire book is pointless and possibly ELNEVER violation. Nardog (talk) 06:44, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
- Okay. I've added an example and specific questions about what I would like to do to that discussion. —DocWatson42 (talk) 07:08, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
- What GreenC (who is paid by Internet Archive btw) is saying you can link to in that discussion is limited views of specific pages. Since you can't access any substantial content of a book without controlled digital lending unless you link to a specific page, linking to the top (or ToC) of the IA page for an entire book is pointless and possibly ELNEVER violation. Nardog (talk) 06:44, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
- Since you haven't replied there—see Wikipedia talk:Copyright violations/Archive_2#Status of linking to works on the Internet Archive (and Google Books and HathiTrust)?. WP:ELNEVER nor Hachette v. Internet Archive apply, though I was fooled by the volume's table of contents. —DocWatson42 (talk) 06:27, 13 July 2023 (UTC)