Template talk:AMD Ryzen AI Mobile 300 series

Total cores

I've not seen any other CPU/SoC related articles listing the total number of cores. Can't WP readers sum them if necessary, @AP 499D25? ;-) I'm just curious. Artem S. Tashkinov (talk) 12:06, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's just something I took from the Ryzen 8000G series template, the primary reason for doing it being that the majority of people out there look at / say the total core count of the CPUs (e.g. "12 cores") rather than separate counts (for example "4+8 cores").

With intel on the other hand, I see it's much more common for people to say the separate core counts (#P+#E) rather than total (e.g. 10C/14T).

Tbh, unlike with intel's e-core and p-core architectures, Zen 5 and Zen 5c are virtually identical, the Zen xc cores have the logic more densely packed together, in trade for clock speeds which are lower on Zen xc cores. Both architectures support the same instruction set, have the same IPC. On server processors the L3 cache per CCX is halved compared to normal server parts, but on these APUs there's no reduced L3 - take for example the R5 8600G and R5 8500G, the latter has partly Zen 4 cores along with Zen 4c, unlike the former which is fully Zen 4, yet both have 16MB L3.

So overall I'd say there is significantly less weight in the separate core counts than the total ones, compared to the competition where it definitely carries a lot of weight due to the significant features and IPC difference between the cores. — AP 499D25 (talk) 13:10, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OK :-) Let it be. I'm perfectly aware that cores are very similar but Zen 5c cores boost significantly lower though. Artem S. Tashkinov (talk) 17:52, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]