Template:Did you know nominations/Yolanda Wisher

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:49, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

Yolanda Wisher

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~~.... that spoken word artist Yolanda Wisher was the third poet laureate of Philadelphia in 2016?~~

Reviewed: new nominator; QPQ not required

Created by Dorevabelfiore (talk). Self-nominated at 20:36, 6 March 2016 (UTC).

Thank you for interesting facts about an interesting woman, on good sources. The hook is sourced, but it says nothing about her Afro-American background, can you add some hint? Such as what she studied? Article: can you combine the single-sentence-paragraphs a bit? Close to approval, good work! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:49, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. Here I changed the DYK to reflect the subject of her writings. I also tightened up the paragraphs of two sections, based on your recommendation. Dorevabelfiore (talk) 15:08, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Like that. Now the tense, - "was" sounds like it's past, but she will forever be the third, no? How about "became". Another wish: other than copy-editing, please don't change a hook (because a later reader will not be able to follow the discussion), but give an alternative, starting ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:24, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

ALT1: .... that spoken word artist Yolanda Wisher, whose writing focuses on the urban African-American experience, became the third poet laureate of Philadelphia in 2016?

Thank you. I reverted the original DYK as you asked and added this new ALT, changing the tense. Dorevabelfiore (talk) 16:04, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you! - I wonder why the Authority doesn't show, would expect VIAF at least. Missing on Wikidata? Compare the bottom of Rainer Maria Rilke. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:54, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you, Gerda. Yes, I deliberately set the Authority Control that way because there is no current Wikidata entry for Yolanda Wisher. I have never created a Wikidata entry before. Should I try to do that? Dorevabelfiore (talk) 17:13, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

I don't know. When I create an article, a Wikidata entry is created "automatically", sometimes sooner than I want (before I can link with an existing one in another language), - I don't know how. I am surprised that there is no entry for her. VIAF is better on Wikidata, in case someone translates. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:22, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

I checked in with a colleague who is a Wikipedian-in-Residence (User:Mary_Mark_Ockerbloom). She created a Wikidata entry for Yolanda Wisher, but thinks that some process has to run in the background before the identifiers get populated. I did not want to manually add the VIAF into Wikidata, but I can check back in a week or so to see if VIAF is there. Dorevabelfiore (talk) 13:35, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

According to a viaf info page: "An automated process, VIAFbot, adds appropriate VIAF identifiers to Wikipedia articles (and via this channel VIAF identifiers become part of Dbpedia and Wikidata representations of Wikipedia content)." In any case, the viaf issue is unrelated to the DYK being ready to go, so this part of the discussion in no way restricts the confirmation given above, and I'm reconfirming the check above in case the discussion caused any confusion. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 01:41, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

There needs to be an inline citation at the end of every sentence in the article that pertains to the hook. "...spoken word artist who focuses on the African-American experience." in the lead has no citation and I couldn't find this backed up by the preceding source from Temple University. The original hook may still be used if this sourcing issue is fixed. Jolly Ω Janner 08:24, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you so much for catching that, @Jolly Janner:. I've added citations that make the connection with spoken word, and moved another up to support the laureate info, since the Temple link is temporarily? unavailable. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 13:42, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

Also, since the discussion above suggests that the original ALT was not preferred, I've struck it out. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 14:19, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

Good to go with ALT1 then. Jolly Ω Janner 19:01, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you @Jolly Janner: and @Mary Mark Ockerbloom: for finding and fixing this issue. The Temple University link seems to be back up now. (Ref. #4) Dorevabelfiore (talk) 01:33, 20 March 2016 (UTC)