Template:Did you know nominations/Yobidashi
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 22:43, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
| DYK toolbox |
|---|
Yobidashi
- ... that yobidashi often receive their trousers from sumo wrestlers who have been promoted to the rank of yokozuna or ōzeki? Source: https://www.lemondedusumo.com/english/MDS25_yobi_interview.php?mag=mds&num=25
- Reviewed:
Created by OtharLuin (talk). Self-nominated at 15:50, 4 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Yobidashi; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
Otherwise: promoted to GA within the window and generally in good shape. Long enough and the hook is within bounds, cited interesting and generally good for the main page. No evident plagiarism, BLP or other issues. I can't actually see the word trousers in the article; is hakama a Japanese word for that? Would suggest getting the word sumo into the hook for those not familiar with the terminology. Two wise heads pinged above for a procedural question. UndercoverClassicist T·C 12:13, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
Hello, thank you for your feedback. I've added the mention of sumo to the body of the hook. The word "trousers" can be found in the dedicated section ("Uniform"). Hakama are indeed what can be likened to traditional kimono trousers. I preferred to use the term trousers to raise more curiosity. - OtharLuin (talk) 12:31, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
@RoySmith and Theleekycauldron: This article has already appeared at DYK (in 2004), which flags red in the DYK checker: however, I can't actually see a rule anywhere that precludes a second appearance if the criteria have been met again.
- Nor did I find any mention of a ban. However, the reference is now 20 years old (!) and the article no longer exists in its old form. However, I'll leave it to you to decide whether to refuse it if there is any doubt or if there is a body of opinion along these lines :) - OtharLuin (talk) 12:31, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- To clarify, it is indeed in the rules that once an article has been featured on DYK, it cannot run again unless the previous version was since deleted as a copyvio. However, given that its first appearance on DYK was about 20 years ago, a very different time for both Wikipedia and DYK, not to mention being a long time ago, I wonder if an IAR exemption could be granted here. That, however, would require consensus at WT:DYK. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:15, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- Would you like me to ask the question on the general Talk? - OtharLuin (talk) 15:08, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- That's a possible option but I'd also suggest asking RoySmith and Theleekycauldron. Is this your first DYK nomination? If it is, there might be the possibility of leeway given since sometimes we tend to be more lenient with newcomers. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:47, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- A strict reading of the rules would preclude this article from running again, unfortunately. I wonder if now might be the time to try and carve out an exception. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 00:52, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- That's a possible option but I'd also suggest asking RoySmith and Theleekycauldron. Is this your first DYK nomination? If it is, there might be the possibility of leeway given since sometimes we tend to be more lenient with newcomers. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:47, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- The two named users replied. As for the DYK nomination, yes, it's my first. The Yobidashi article is also the first I've worked on to achieve GA status. Given what you mentioned earlier and what Leeky mentioned about a good context for changing things, I asked the question about a possible rule change on the general Talk to allow more contributions to the discussion... - OtharLuin (talk) 08:33, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
Comment. As the nomination rules now have been changed, I require a review of the substance of the article to re-nominate Yobidashi in DYK. - OtharLuin (talk) 08:07, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- UndercoverClassicist, what's your read? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 03:07, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not quite sure what's being asked here: is the change in question simply that the article can re-run? If so, I don't see any reason to change my initial judgement that the article and hook are good to go in themselves.
on that basis (but please correct me if I've missed something!) UndercoverClassicist T·C 07:28, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not quite sure what's being asked here: is the change in question simply that the article can re-run? If so, I don't see any reason to change my initial judgement that the article and hook are good to go in themselves.
