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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 07:01, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

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Yinka Jegede-Ekpe

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Created by Mujinga (talk). Self-nominated at 10:12, 10 May 2020 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: No - Hooks are not sufficiently interesting; many babies born to HIV positive mothers are not positive.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: buidhe 21:55, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Yes many HIV-negative babies are born to HIV-positive women, but the proposed hookiness here is that Yinka Jegede-Ekpe was the first woman in Nigeria to publicly announce her HIV-positive status and then experienced a lot of discrimination (head of medical school told her to stop studying, school locked her out of bathroom, choir didn't want to sing with her any more etc), so then her giving birth to a HIV-negative baby is the hopefully happy ending to a tough story. I've edited the page a bit to reflect this and made a new hook (ALT2) hope it helps. Or ALT3 is another suggestion.Mujinga (talk) 21:48, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

I would also disagree that the original hooks were uninteresting. I'm not sure that the general public would be aware that that can occur. Ivar the Boneful (talk) 15:32, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for explaining this, Mujinga! I was previously unaware of most of this; the situation is quite interesting. I like ALT3 and maybe ALT4 as they convey this situation most directly. —Shrinkydinks (talk) 16:43, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Second opinion requested as to whether the provided hooks (including the two new ones) are interesting, and in the case of ALT2 and ALT3, are cited. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:29, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
    • Personally, I think the original hook is interesting. The alt-hook variations have problems, in my opinion. The fact that she was the first to go public about her HIV status is interesting, and not everyone knows that giving birth to an HIV-negative child is not so unusual, and it shows hope in a situation that initially appears very bleak. In ALT1, the "in 2006" seems like an unnecessary distraction – readers can go read the article to learn about exactly when she gave birth, and the reader still doesn't know when it was that she went public (which is more interesting to the reader than when she gave birth). ALT2 uses "but" improperly – for disconnected issues: it is possible to give birth while being shunned, and giving birth does not stop shunning. Shunning remains harmful even if one has a healthy child. ALT3 seems to shift the focus from her to UNICEF. —BarrelProof (talk) 23:41, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
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