Template:Did you know nominations/Yanmen Pass
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:25, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
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Yanmen Pass
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- ... that the Great Wall of China's Wild Goose Pass—now a AAAAA-rated tourist site on the Ming-era Inner Great Wall—was first fortified during the Warring States Era to protect Zhao's recent conquests from their former owners?
China Internet Information Center: "Yanmen means 'wild goose'..." "Yanmen Pass is one of important passes through the inner line of the Great Wall... In the Warring States Period... the original pass was built on the summit of a hill accessible only by an ancient trail... The current Yanmen Pass was rebuilt in 1374 during Ming Dynasty..." [sic]; Hunan Provincial Gov't: "The China National Tourism Administration released a list of 20 new 5A-class tourist attractions... Yanmen Pass scenic area..."; Ancient China and Its Enemies: "The state of Chao... 'in the north attacked the Lin Hu and the Lou-fan; built long walls, and made a barrier... then established... Yen-men...' ...What they say is that the walls were built 'to repel' or 'to contain' the nomads after a substantial drive into foreign lands..." &c. &c.- ALT1:... that the Great Wall of China's Yanmen Pass was the site of an ambush in World War II that delayed the Japanese assault on Taiyuan?
Dictionary of Contemporary Chinese Military History: ...the regiment executed an ambush, attacking a Japanese supply column at Yanmenguan... the division's 716th Regiment again carried out a successful ambush of a Japanese supply column in the Yanmenguan area... The Japanese responded with air attacks... committed the "Ushiromiya Division" to an offensive in northwest Shanxi... The effort against the Japanese supply lines permitted Yan Yishan's defense of Taiyuan more time and significantly delayed the Japanese effort..." - ALT2:... that the inconvenience of getting to Wild Goose Pass (pictured) makes it one of the less crowded AAAAA-rated sites along the Great Wall of China?
China Internet Information Center: "Yanmen means 'wild goose'... Since the transportation is not very convenient that there are not many visitors there..."; Hunan Provincial Gov't: "The China National Tourism Administration released a list of 20 new 5A-class tourist attractions... Yanmen Pass scenic area..."
- ALT1:... that the Great Wall of China's Yanmen Pass was the site of an ambush in World War II that delayed the Japanese assault on Taiyuan?
- Reviewed: Freckle-breasted thornbird
5x expanded by LlywelynII (talk). Self-nominated at 08:53, 15 January 2018 (UTC).
Massively expanded within the required timeframe, of high quality, well sourced and comprehensive. Hooks are interesting, and references check out. I've made some tweaks to the hooks for legibility and to link to relevant articles. QPQ done. I find it hard to choose from among the hooks; as a history buff, I find the first most interesting, but it will probably overwhelm the casual reader with too many strange names. Probably the third hook will cause more interest. Anyhow, well done, a very well-written article! Constantine ✍ 11:22, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you,—especially for the kind words,—but removing the extraneous links. They do nothing to help the page the nominators have worked on. Here, e.g., Cwmhiraeth (or one of the other promoters), though well meaning, sent more than twice as many clicks to the wrong article instead of leaving the promoted article as the only link in the hook. If people are curious what Zhao or the AAAAA ratings mean, they can click through via the article that's been worked on. That's why we're here in the first place: some of those extra click-throughs will stay and see things in the articles, possibly even noticing problems or omissions and improving them.
Also, fwiw, links about World War II in the Chinese theatre should point at Second Sino-Japanese War rather than WWII as a whole. (Although, again, that shouldn't matter for these hooks; there's no policy necessitating extraneous links; I don't want them; and they're unhelpful for what the project is here for in the first place.) — LlywelynII 13:52, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you,—especially for the kind words,—but removing the extraneous links. They do nothing to help the page the nominators have worked on. Here, e.g., Cwmhiraeth (or one of the other promoters), though well meaning, sent more than twice as many clicks to the wrong article instead of leaving the promoted article as the only link in the hook. If people are curious what Zhao or the AAAAA ratings mean, they can click through via the article that's been worked on. That's why we're here in the first place: some of those extra click-throughs will stay and see things in the articles, possibly even noticing problems or omissions and improving them.
