Template:Did you know nominations/Wu Jianmin (democracy activist)

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The result was: rejected by Victuallers (talk) 13:07, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Wu Jianmin (democracy activist)

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• ... that after Wu Jianmin, the student leader of the June 4th Movement in Nanjing, China, was imprisoned as a political prisoner, did the rescue plan of former US Secretary of State James Baker succeed in 1991? Source: Voice of AmericaRadio Free AsiaChina Change
  • ALT1:... that Wu Jianmin, a Nanjing student leader of the June 4th Movement who led the democratic movement, was arrested and sentenced as a political prisoner to 10 years in prison by the Chinese Communist Party authorities? Source:
  • ALT2:... that after the US demanded that democracy activist Wu Jianmin be released, Wu Jianmin was already in the room and said he was free? Source: Voice of AmericaRadio Free AsiaChina Change

Created by Jujiang (talk). Self-nominated at 11:31, 25 March 2021 (UTC).

• Needs a lot of work I think. Surprised that the local student leader of 1989 Tiananmen Square protests" is not mentioned anywhere else on en:Wikipedia? The Chinese version of this article exposes some of the issues. A paragraph of challenging statements is followed by 3 or 4 ref callouts. This takes too long to check. We need One inline ref after significant claims. I have added a few "citation needed" to the first few sentences. There are some subtle translation issues ... it says he picked on the communist party when I suspect the opposite is what is meant. However I see that he is, one-of-the important leaders mentioned here. Once tidied up this has a great DYK hook...."that after the US demanded that democracy activist We Jianmin be released, We Jianmin was already in the room and said he was free? HTH Victuallers (talk) 15:04, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

@Victuallers: Thank you for reviewing and providing a reference source. I have adjusted the reference sources and changed the article. The hook you designed is very wonderful! I have used it. Many thanks.  Done (I also think there are too few articles about China in en:Wikipedia.) --Jujiang (talk) 22:11, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

I have tried to reduce the over reffing but I have looked more and there are still examples of key facts with five refs after them, I go to check a ref and find that the fact isn't mentioned. Key achievements are reffed to videos that were made by this person. The videos are not 3rd party reliable sources. There was also a section where the article started to tell me about politics. Wikipedia doesnt do that in biographies. This person is notable enough (I think) to have an article but this article requires a lot of work and it would take hours if we had three or four reliable sources (and not the dubious ones) My only suggestion is to ask on WikiProject China or at the Teahouse to see if someone will buddy you. We do need lots of articles about China ... Victuallers (talk) 13:49, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your comment. I will try to modify it again. --Jujiang (talk) 17:07, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

• I have expanded the content and added 4-5 independent reference sources. Please someone review this article again. Many Thanks. --Jujiang (talk) 21:13, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

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