Template:Did you know nominations/Women in Philippine art

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The result was: rejected by — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:47, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
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Women in Philippine art

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... that in an analysis of women in Philippine art, Filipino hero José Rizal sculpted nude figures of women with long hair on the head but without pubic hair, such as the Scientia (pictured)?

Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nominated at 21:05, 24 November 2013 (UTC).

Reviewed Did you know nominations/Ranbir (newspaper).

Article is newly created and long enough. However, the hook is about a specific artist, and a specific sculpture, rather than the more general subject of women in Philippine art. The article could be a very welcome and interesting addition to Wikipedia, but I'd also question whether the article is adequately sourced at the moment; the overview is cited to a student essay, of undetermined origin or authority. Which source says Amorsolo, Luna, Hidalgo and Rizal are key artists to the portrayal of women? Book sources will need to cite the page number(s). There are several other paragraphs which are completely uncited.

Possibly the "Love, passion and patriotism" book is the best general overview so far of attitudes to women and sexuality in Philipinne art, maybe a more general fact can be gleaned and used as a hook? Sionk (talk) 11:52, 26 November 2013 (UT

Thank you for your comment and for reviewing the article. Pages for the referenced book has been supplied. See the general hook I placed below:

Alt 1: ... that the three sculptures of Filipino national hero José Rizal is just an example of how sexuality is viewed in relation to women in Philippine art? - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:19, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Alt 2: ... that in relation to sexuality and women in Philippine art, Filipino national hero José Rizal did not want Filipino women to be like European women? - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:55, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Alt 3: ... that one rule of thumb in depicting Filipino women in art is to put emphasis on their distinct physical attributes and their similarity to a blushing girl? - AnakngAraw (talk)

Well, of those three Alt 2 has the most scope, possibly:

Alt 4: ... that in relation to women in Philippine art, Filipino artist José Rizal did not want Filipino women to be like European women?

However, I still have concerns about the article, there are very few (almost no) sources about the general subject. If there are no existing authoritative studies of the subject it is on a weak footing. Anyway, someone else will need to review Alt 4 and maybe they will be more charitable. Sionk (talk) 03:18, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

I have sourcing concerns as well. What makes clarissa-tan.com and "Eva: Women in Philippine Art" reliable? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:40, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

I need a more expert Wikipedian to assist in improving the article and this DYK entry. I am no longer able to think outside the box here, for this one. Thanks. - AnakngAraw (talk) 01:33, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Sourcing concerns unadressed. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:30, 10 January 2014 (UTC)