Template:Did you know nominations/Wolfgang Meyer
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 12:47, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
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Wolfgang Meyer
[edit]- ... that Wolfgang Meyer recorded Mozart's Clarinet Concerto on a historical basset clarinet, and played his last concert with jazz saxophonist Peter Lehel? Source: several
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5x expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 13:00, 24 March 2019 (UTC).
I wonder if it would be a better option to split this hook into two separate hooks, it seems to be cramming too much information without really connecting either fact. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:41, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
- I disagree: there are early music specialists, for whom the first half would be good. There are jazz clarinettists, for whom the second would be good. HE was both, and I'd like to show. RIP --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:13, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
- I understand where you're coming from Gerda, but as of the moment the current hook is simply not working out. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 08:19, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
- For you. Do you have a suggestion which shows his versatility differently? Putting him in a specialist corner wouldn't do justice to a great person. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:42, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
- Here are some suggestions based on what I could glean at the article:
- ALT1
... that German clarinetist Wolfgang Meyer led masterclasses in Brazil, Canada, Finland, Italy and Japan? - ALT2
... that German clarinetist Wolfgang Meyer was part of a chamber music ensemble together with his sister and his brother-in-law? - ALT3
... that Wolfgang Meyer recorded Mozart's Clarinet Concerto on a historic basset clarinet? - ALT4
... that reviews praised the performances of clarinetist Wolfgang Meyer for his "beautifully rounded, velvety tone" and for his voice being "always perfectly tuned and with extremely light articulation"? - If you don't like any of these suggestions, let's see what we can do with the original hook, but it won't work in its current form (it might work if rephrased, however). Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:58, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
- Sigh. I asked you particularly for a hook showing his versatility, not a restriction to one small item. It's unuusal that a classical musician plays jazz!! None of your suggestions has anything about his broadness of approach, and the masterclasses are so boring that I strike them. Almost any classical musician with some standing does that, nothing unique to him. ALT2 might work if you name the sister (one of the most famous clarinetists there ever was, for her sensational entry as the fist woman with the Berlin Philharmonic), instead of playing down to someone making music with family. In ALT3, at least mention Harnoncourt, THE first promoter of historically informed performance. ALT4 is not wanted in general by the DYK crowd as possibly the view of just one critic, so I strike that also. I still like the original best. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:24, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
- For you. Do you have a suggestion which shows his versatility differently? Putting him in a specialist corner wouldn't do justice to a great person. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:42, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
- I understand where you're coming from Gerda, but as of the moment the current hook is simply not working out. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 08:19, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
Slight tweak to ALT2, what do you think?
- ALT2a
... that German clarinetist Wolfgang Meyer was part of a chamber music ensemble together with his sister Sabine and his brother-in-law? - I really tried to make a hook that would be a summary or overview of his many activities, but it proved too difficult without making the wording awkward. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 21:02, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for the offer. I don't remember asking for summary, just a hint at versatility. Someone else will have to review.
- ALT5: ... that Wolfgang Meyer, who recorded Mozart's Clarinet Concerto on a historical basset clarinet, played his last concert with jazz saxophonist Peter Lehel? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:48, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
Full review needed, including of the remaining ALT hooks. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:38, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
This article is a five-fold expansion and is new enough and long enough. ALT5 is the creator's choice and seems acceptable to me. The hook facts are cited inline, the article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. A QPQ has been done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:44, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
