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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 23:05, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

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William Olander

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  • ... that when he was just a student, William Olander, late curator at New Museum, was one of the first to highlight the importance of the 1792 French proclamation La patrie en danger? Source: Days of Glory?: Imaging Military Recruitment and the French Revolution by Valerie Mainz (2016) ([1])
    • ALT1:... that William Olander asked ACT UP to create the installation "Let the Record Show..." when anonymous posters with the sentence "Silence = Death" (pictured) started to appear throughout Manhattan? Source: Art Matters: How the Culture Wars Changed America by Julie Ault (1999) ([2])

Created by Elisa.rolle (talk). Self-nominated at 20:09, 1 August 2017 (UTC).

  • QPQ done. Article is new enough and long enough. Hook is interesting and cited. Seems to clear copyvio. Image is tagged "ineligible for copyright." Chetsford (talk) 01:58, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
I was going to promote this nomination but decided that neither hook was satisfactory. The first one refers to the importance of the 1792 proclamation but I could not discover what the importance was, nor was the source helpful in this respect. ALT1 I find confusing. How about ALT2? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:16, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
  • ALT2 ... that William Olander, curator at the New Museum, created an installation "Let the Record Show" highlighting the indifference shown by the public to AIDS victims?
Cwmhiraeth: *ALT2 is missing the reference to the poster which is important as the pushing point for the show... what about: ALT3 ... that William Olander created the installation "Let the Record Show" at the New Museum when the anonymous posters "Silence = Death" (pictured) started to appear throughout Manhattan? Elisa.rolle (talk) 09:40, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
Well, I didn't quite understand about the posters and who was putting them up. The trouble with ALT3 is that it gives no idea about what the installation is about. How about ALT3a, which I have had to trim to get it below 200 characters: Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:17, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
  • ALT3a ... that after "Silence = Death" posters (pictured) appeared in Manhattan, William Olander created a display "Let the Record Show" at the New Museum, highlighting the indifference of the public to AIDS victims?
  • Restoring tick now that hook is settled as ALT3b, which contains the same facts as the already approved hook ALT1. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:01, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
  • Hi, I came by to promote this, but find the ALT3b hook wordy and unclear. What do you think about shortening it?
  • ALT3c: ... that after Silence=Death posters (pictured) appeared around Manhattan, William Olander created a New Museum exhibit highlighting public indifference to AIDS victims? Yoninah (talk) 21:01, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
yes, all the necessary info are there. fine for me. Elisa.rolle (talk) 21:05, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
  • Thanks. I just rechecked the NY Times source and removed "the numbers of" from the hook, as you didn't have it in ALT3b either. Restoring tick for ALT3c per Chetsford's review. Yoninah (talk) 21:12, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
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