Template:Did you know nominations/Werner Flume
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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 00:16, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
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Werner Flume
- ... that Werner Flume called a fellow academic assistant a pig for demanding the boycott of professors of Jewish descent in 1933? Source: See the three citations in the article (sadly, only in German). A Google book link here: https://books.google.de/books?id=zAn9lApFpBcC&pg=PA79&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false
- ALT1: ... that Werner Flume has been called a "jurist of the century"? Source: See the citations in the article a PDF here: https://www.zjs-online.com/dat/artikel/2008_6_135.pdf (title and p. 676)
Created by WatkynBassett (talk). Self-nominated at 19:40, 2 May 2022 (UTC).
New enough in mainspace and long enough. User is QPQ exempt.
- @WatkynBassett: Inline citation needed to end the paragraph ending in
During his studies, Flume was particularly influenced by Fritz Schulz, a Roman law scholar.
- AGF ALT0 (offline sources) and ALT1 (which seems to check out). ALT1 is drier than ALT0, which I prefer.
- No textual issues.
- @WatkynBassett: Inline citation needed to end the paragraph ending in
- The inline citation issue is the only blocker from approval. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 00:37, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Sammi Brie: Many thanks for your valuable review and your good copy edits to the article. I tried to address your missing citation concern: In the new citation it is written that Fritz Schulz was his academic teacher in Bonn ("Dort fand er in dem Romanisten Fritz Schulz seinen akademischen Lehrer"; "There he found his academic teacher in the Roman law scholar Fritz Schulz."), which in my mind is enough verification for the stated claim, but I see that this is clearly an edge case. If you prefer deletion of the claim, I would of course be content with it. Thank you again and sorry for the long delay ... WatkynBassett (talk) 12:30, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
- @WatkynBassett: I think the source would not support "influence" but should note that he received his doctorate under Schulz. Once that's done, this can be approved. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 18:41, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Sammi Brie: As I found no direct source for the claim that the dissertation was supervised by Schulz, even if this is almost certain, I rewrote the sentence to: "During his studies in Bonn, Fritz Schulz – a Roman law scholar – became the academic teacher of Flume." Maybe this is more aligned with the sources? Thanks again! WatkynBassett (talk) 19:05, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
Yes, this reads well and matches the source. This is ready. Thanks for working with me. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 19:36, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
- I have to give thanks to you! Was a real pleasure, @Sammi Brie:! WatkynBassett (talk) 19:45, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Sammi Brie: As I found no direct source for the claim that the dissertation was supervised by Schulz, even if this is almost certain, I rewrote the sentence to: "During his studies in Bonn, Fritz Schulz – a Roman law scholar – became the academic teacher of Flume." Maybe this is more aligned with the sources? Thanks again! WatkynBassett (talk) 19:05, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
- @WatkynBassett: I think the source would not support "influence" but should note that he received his doctorate under Schulz. Once that's done, this can be approved. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 18:41, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Sammi Brie: Many thanks for your valuable review and your good copy edits to the article. I tried to address your missing citation concern: In the new citation it is written that Fritz Schulz was his academic teacher in Bonn ("Dort fand er in dem Romanisten Fritz Schulz seinen akademischen Lehrer"; "There he found his academic teacher in the Roman law scholar Fritz Schulz."), which in my mind is enough verification for the stated claim, but I see that this is clearly an edge case. If you prefer deletion of the claim, I would of course be content with it. Thank you again and sorry for the long delay ... WatkynBassett (talk) 12:30, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
