Template:Did you know nominations/War of Qi's succession
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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:31, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
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War of Qi's succession
[edit]... that Duke Huan of Qi's corpse was left to rot in his bedchamber for months while his sons fought for the throne of Qi?Source: "When Duke Huan became ill, the five Noble Scions each formed coteries to struggle for the throne. When Duke Huan expired, they finally attacked each other. For this reason, the palace was empty, and none dared to encoffin [the corpse of Duke Huan]. Duke Huan's corpse was on his bed for sixty-seven days, and corpse insects come out from under the door." (Sima Qian (2006). William H. Nienhauser, Jr. (ed.). The Grand Scribe's Records: The Hereditary Houses of Pre-Han China, Part 1. Indiana University Press. p. 81.)
- Reviewed: Little Joe Monahan
Created by Applodion (talk). Self-nominated at 13:02, 25 September 2017 (UTC).
New enough, long enough, neutrally written, adequately referenced. As all sources are offline, unable to check for close paraphrasing. Offline hook ref AGF and cited inline. Image in article freely-licensed. QPQ done.- I'd like to note, however, that it won't be possible to link this hook on the main page to Duke Huan of Qi, as that article has a "refimprove" tag on it. (If you would like to add some more refs and remove the tag, that would be great.) More worrying, that article gives a somewhat different account of the events described in this article. There it says: One day one of his wives got in through a small hole and found out that the ministers had been starving the Duke to death. After he died in 643 BC, his sons fought each other for the throne, and his corpse was not buried for 67 days. It was so badly decomposed that worms crawled out of his room. Would you like to fix that article with your sources, or update the Duke Huan of Qi article so it aligns with this one? Yoninah (talk) 22:48, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
- @Yoninah: The story that Duke Huan was murdered is only recorded in the Guanzi (text) which was written much later than the other primary sources; as it is a major claim, however, I will add it to the succession war article. In regard to the article about Duke Huan of Qi, I think I will improve it using my sources; I wanted to do it at some point anyway. I am currently somewhat busy, however, and will ping you when I have improved the article, okay? Applodion (talk) 07:11, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
- Just a comment: would it be possible to provide the Chinese name for the conflict in the article? This may help others find more Chinese-language sources and verify claims. Thanks. --NoGhost (talk) 15:19, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
- @Yoninah: I have impoved Duke Huan of Qi's article and added the claims about his assassination to the succession war article. Sorry that I needed so much time. Applodion (talk) 18:40, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
- @Applodion: thank you very much. You did a great job! I would like to know if anything other than the note about his corpse being left to rot was copied from War of Qi's succession? If so, a Template:Copied must be put on both talk pages. Regarding this hook, since there is a difference of opinion as to whether his corpse was abandoned for days, weeks, or months, could we leave the time out of the hook, as follows:
- ALT0a: ... that Duke Huan of Qi's corpse was left to rot in his bedchamber while his sons fought for the throne of Qi? Yoninah (talk) 20:45, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
- @Yoninah: As far as I remember, I rewrote Duke Huan's article from ground-up. In case there are parallels (beside the note), they should be coincidental. I will further expand Duke Huan's article sometime in the future anyways, as it is far from complete. In regard to the alternate hook, I'm absolutely okay with it. Thank you for the review and your patience! Applodion (talk) 22:46, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
