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The result was: promoted by PFHLai (talk) 10:16, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
Vitus Bering
[edit]- ... that having secured a promotion to first captain on his retirement, soon-to-be explorer Vitus Bering then retained the rank when he rejoined the Russian Navy five months later?
- Reviewed: Väinö Koskela
- Comment: My review of Väinö Koskela is currently "in progress", as it were, soon to be completed. I've just realised that this nom is in fact a few hours over the five days - I hope this isn't too much of an issue, since it's only ticked over because I was too busy to fill out the form, and it would be a shame to just miss out on these grounds. Happy to accept reviewer's decision, of course.
Created/expanded by Jarry1250 (talk). Self nom at 21:17, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
- 5x expansion checks out. Hook is verified, although I don't find it particular interesting -- I think that a more interesting hook could be created about the dismal results of his early career. Most of the article is well-supported by footnotes, but the section "Sea voyage, death and achievements" is almost completely unsourced. The sourcing needs improvement. I haven't checked for plagiarism and close paraphrasing yet. --Orlady (talk) 04:19, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review. I've now vastly improved the sourcing on the final section to avoid any criticism of it failing WP:V. I'm open to suggestions of new hooks; personally I find the one stated interesting, but that's just personal taste. Two suggestions of my own:
- 5x expansion checks out. Hook is verified, although I don't find it particular interesting -- I think that a more interesting hook could be created about the dismal results of his early career. Most of the article is well-supported by footnotes, but the section "Sea voyage, death and achievements" is almost completely unsourced. The sourcing needs improvement. I haven't checked for plagiarism and close paraphrasing yet. --Orlady (talk) 04:19, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that unbeknownst to him, Danish explorer Vitus Bering was not in fact the first European to sail through the strait that now bears his name?
- ALT2 ... that the nine-year-long second expedition of Danish explorer Vitus Bering spent its budget twenty-five times over in its five years alone?
- Thoughts? - Jarry1250 [Deliberation needed] 09:26, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
- Article is fine now (sufficiently footnoted, my comparison of the article with the main source found no hint of plagiarism); the hook facts for ALT1 and ALT2 both check out. I prefer ALT1 -- hooks without a lot of details are more likely to grab the reader. --Orlady (talk) 13:03, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
- Great. ALT1 is fine by me too. - Jarry1250 [Deliberation needed] 14:26, 13 April 2012 (UTC)