Template:Did you know nominations/Vernon Arnold Haugland
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The result was: promoted by Allen3 talk 18:58, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
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Vernon Arnold Haugland
[edit]- ... that Vern Haugland was the first civilian to receive the Silver Star medal, awarded normally only to members of the United States Armed Forces?
Created by Doug Coldwell (talk) and 7&6=thirteen (☎). Nominated by Doug Coldwell (talk) at 11:24, 17 December 2015 (UTC).
New enough. Long enough. Hook is good and cited. WP:AGF on the offline source for the hook, espcially as I have found it cited online Haugland, Vern, 1908-1984 NWDA. Spot checking with dup detector does reveal some close paraphrasing issues, for example, dup detector. So, this aspect needs attention. Well-cited. NPOV. QPQ review done. Edwardx (talk) 13:16, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
- Reply Edwardx, after your missive, I've copy edited the hell out of this. You detection seems to be focusing on three and four word snippets which have in common the names of organizations, places, dates, titles (including website titles), quotations (cited multiple times) and awards (Silver Star medal. We could call it a 'pentastar medallion made from the 47th element on the periodic table') {:>{)> . It is unavoidable. There is no satisfactory substitute for "Hollywood", "December 7, 1941", Pearl Harbor, University of Washington, Associated Press or New Guinea. "Hiroshima and Nagasacki" are a set, and one could change the order, but chronological makes sense. This is not a copyright violation, and is not close paraphrasing. Earwig's Copy Violation Detector: Vernon Arnold Haugland. Edwardx Please review it again in light of all the changes we made as you suggested. Thanks for your help. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:59, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
- @Edwardx: Done. Will that work for you? --Doug Coldwell (talk) 16:10, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
Thank you 7&6=thirteen and Doug Coldwell. Agreed that some facts can be unavoidably the same as in the original sources. My review notes that it was the close paraphrasing that was of concern, rather than copyvio. Looking again after your copyediting, it should now pass muster, but close paraphrasing is always going to be somewhat a matter of opinion. Edwardx (talk) 10:07, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
