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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by 97198 (talk) 10:27, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

Untitled Donald Crowhurst film

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Moved to mainspace by Captain Assassin! (talk). Self-nominated at 16:55, 26 July 2015 (UTC).

  • Length is OK (5x expanded); age is OK; neutral; no copyvio or close paraphrasing (I had a go at it to remove some bits that were close to the sources; probably unavoidable if they were required, but a bit of slashing at it soon sorted it out). The plot section had to go as none of the sources revealed any details of the plot other than it was about Crowhurst. The Times of Malta and Malta Independent sources were identical apart from the title and opening sentence, so I removed the MI cite. The picture of Donald Crowhurst is not free to use; I've removed it here and you will need to write a Fair Use justification if you want to keep it in the article. DYK problems: the opening ("The untitled is...") has to be sorted out (such are the difficulties when you set out to write about something that doesn't yet exist); QPQ is required; the original hook is a smidge dull (actor plays role in film) and the ALT hook is hyperbolic: "cheated the whole world"; most of the world wouldn't have been aware of him. Belle (talk) 23:36, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
  • Yes Belle you're right, most of the world is not aware of him, and that's why we are taking it to the main page, so much of the world would get to know him. QPQ is done now. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 02:53, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
The Alt hook would certainly be hyperbolic: there is no coherent sense in which giving misleading information about his positions during the course of a race (which he never completed) was "cheating the whole world".Orbitalforam (talk) 14:50, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
Okay then. Please review the first hook. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 08:29, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
@Captain Assassin!: there is no point in anyone doing a further review here until you have addressed the issues raised by Belle in her original review. Please let us know when you have done so. Since she did find the original hook to be dull, you might want to try another hook (ALT1 has been struck for the reasons noted). Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:10, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
Issues are addressed and two alts are proposed. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 02:40, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
The ALTs are almost identical to the original hooks, but you've worn me down, so good to go with ALT2. Belle (talk) 00:43, 20 September 2015 (UTC)