Template:Did you know nominations/Under the Christmas Tree
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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 00:13, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
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Under the Christmas Tree
... that the screenwriter of Under the Christmas Tree, the first Lifetime channel Christmas movie to feature lesbian leads, also wrote the network's first gay male Christmas movie the year before?Source: Avery 2021: "Last year, Lifetime debuted its first gaycentric holiday flick, 'The Christmas Setup,' and this season, it's bringing a lesbian romance to the small screen. In this holiday tale from 'The Christmas Setup' screenwriter Michael J. Murray..."- Reviewed: Slosh (cue sport)
Moved to mainspace by Bobamnertiopsis (talk). Self-nominated at 02:48, 30 April 2022 (UTC).
article states that the film was promoted as the network's "first lesbian Christmas movie", which I don't think is exactly the same as "the first to feature lesbian leads". Some minor clarification would be helpful. Or why not just retain the wordinf of "first lesbian Christmas movie"? Anyhow, I'm also slightly concerned that the bulk of the article's length is due to the plot which doesn't count towards DYK requirements if I remember correctly. Take the plot and the quotations out, and it would seem that whatever remains is quite skimpy. Otherwise the hook is cited and interesting, QPQ has been done, and I could not find evidence of copyvio. Kingoflettuce (talk) 09:50, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Kingoflettuce, thanks for taking a look at this! Sorry it's taken a moment to get back to you.
- In regards to the article's length, you're right that the plot is the longest chunk but the rest of the article body text is ~2,000 characters (not even counting the lede), which does fulfill the DYK requirements. I'm happy to try and trim the plot section if you think it needs it, but the rest of the body includes pretty much everything I could find about this movie.
- Regarding the "first lesbian Christmas movie" versus "first to feature lesbian leads"–you're very right! These are annoyingly slightly different things, which highlights a real semantic difficulty of proclaiming [whatever] the first [sexual orientation] piece of media. What makes a movie a "lesbian" movie? Must its leads be lesbians, or can it simply have any lesbian character? Anyway, not super germane to your point but an irksome consideration nonetheless. In regards to your point, I've added another reference and propose: ALT1: ... that the screenwriter of Under the Christmas Tree, the Lifetime network's first lesbian Christmas movie, also wrote the channel's first gay male Christmas movie the year before? Thanks! —Collint c 00:39, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
ALT1 looks great. Hook fact is interesting (though I personally won't be watching the movie any time soon). New and long enough. No copyvio detected. CuePQ done. Cheers, Kingoflettuce (talk) 22:56, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
